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01-30-2019, 09:06 AM

#71

Hard Landing

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Originally Posted by sailingfun

If you are dumb enough to use mouthwash in the 30 minutes before reporting for a trip you probably deserve the fine. Normally however if you are positive they repeat the test 30 minutes later for that reason.

Really? I thought the mouthwash thing was a myth. I use listerine right after I brush my teeth, which is often right before I report. I’ll have to check on that.

01-30-2019, 09:11 AM

#72

Vincent Chase

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Originally Posted by Hard Landing

Really? I thought the mouthwash thing was a myth. I use listerine right after I brush my teeth, which is often right before I report. I’ll have to check on that.

Don't swallow...you'll be fine.
[insert teenage joke line here].

01-30-2019, 09:46 AM

#73

Starscream

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hard Landing

Really? I thought the mouthwash thing was a myth. I use listerine right after I brush my teeth, which is often right before I report. I’ll have to check on that.

The reason, I guess, why mouthwashes containing alcohol are prohibited by the FOM.

If you use mouthwash and then immediately take a breathalyzer test, it’ll show you having a BAC that would kill a bull. It goes down sharply to where you should be blowing .000 after about 20-30 minutes.

01-30-2019, 09:47 AM

#74

dalad

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Originally Posted by Vincent Chase

Teaching them....what?

That there could be a whole parallel universe out there, or one under your fingernail.

01-30-2019, 10:00 AM

#75

Birdo1

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Originally Posted by m3113n1a1

Legally drunk is fine though? I'd much rather have a stoner teaching my kids than a drunk.

No, legally drunk is not fine. A drunk teacher and a stoned teacher are equally bad. However, a drunk teacher can be more easily spotted than a stoned teacher who’s been snacking on marijuana candy—something you’re going to see a lot more of as legalization continues.

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01-30-2019, 10:28 AM

#76

Bert Sampson

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I didn't realize Delta had so many doctors and addiction specialists on the payroll!

01-30-2019, 10:40 AM

#77

JamesBond

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Originally Posted by captainchipotle

I'll have a few beers on layovers, but I have a hard time feeling sorry for somebody that got nailed with 3x's the limit.

The short game is that it makes us look bad, the long game is that it helps the argument for pilotless/single pilot cockpit. Machines don't drink. I don't mean it in the sense of a pilot attacking another pilot, I'm looking through the glasses of the general public who is relying more and more on automation.

There is a huge difference between single pilot and pilotless. Huge.

01-30-2019, 11:03 AM

#78

Dalda Erlines

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Originally Posted by JamesBond

There is a huge difference between single pilot and pilotless. Huge.

Zero sympathy for this individual. Its one thing for a tax attorney with alcoholism to show up for work drunk and another thing for an airline pilot. The standard is and needs to be incredibly higher in our profession. Alcoholism has nothing to do with deciding whether or not you should go fly an airplane with a couple hundred people while intoxicated—that disease is called narcissism.

01-30-2019, 11:06 AM

#79

Trip7

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Originally Posted by Tummy

If it's a breath test, 0.27mg/L is equivalent to 0.054-0.062 % BAC.

https://www.lionlaboratories.com/tes...its-converter/

Woah, it seems to have that kinda reading you have to be blackout or near blackout drunk and 8 hours didn't burn it off or stopped drinking less than 5 hours before show.

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01-30-2019, 11:23 AM

#80

sailingfun

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hard Landing

Really? I thought the mouthwash thing was a myth. I use listerine right after I brush my teeth, which is often right before I report. I’ll have to check on that.

It’s not a myth however normally it will only show up for the first 15 minutes after use. That is why most agencies will retest 30 minutes later. I have yet to see any pilot whip out mouthwash and use it on the crew bus.