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Originally Posted by Han Solo
(Post 2757400)
Tax laws are written by the rich for the rich, don't expect any meaningful improvements to those who make less than $10M/year. In addition, we already have all sorts of use taxes that dirty politicians then funnel away to their rich sponsors' pet agendas. I've said it here before and I'll say it again, until you fix campaign financing rules nothing else of importance can be accomplished.
The scary part for most of us is that type of work and investing does not provide the guaranteed hourly rate we get for flying a trip. You may work for a year or more with only minimal payback, then get six figures or more on one check. It takes a different approach to income and wealth creation, but it is rewarded in the tax code. |
Originally Posted by Gunfighter
(Post 2757419)
Buy income producing real estate, invest in energy production and start a business. It is much easier to change games than change the rules.
Energy Production.. what do you mean? (really want to know, not being funny) |
Originally Posted by gloopy
(Post 2757425)
You and your fat 401(k) and other wealth are the 1% in the eyes of a supermajority of voters. Get ready for the grab.
Scary, but true. |
Decades of convincing people that they shouldn't have to compete to earn money on the low end or be able to keep it on the high end and most people now believe it.
It's a matter of time. They'll clear out the super rich pretty quick and hunt lower and lower levels of wealth even though it's not sustainable. At some point, anyone with savings or a pension will be the elite that abused the system for their own greed. And then, we'll be crossing the border into Canada for toilet paper. Thanks a lot, Karl Marx. |
Retire overseas. Transfer your 401k.
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Originally Posted by Slaphappy
(Post 2757044)
that's actually because of the state you live in. Maybe your state should lower your state taxes?
43 out of 50 states have state income tax and the average rate is roughly 5%. |
Originally Posted by iaflyer
(Post 2757476)
What exactly are you saying - purchasing houses and renting them out? REIT?
Energy Production.. what do you mean? (really want to know, not being funny) Here is a partial list of considerations under the category of income property for buy and hold investments. 1) 1-4 family residential. This will qualify for a traditional home mortgage when making a leveraged investment. 2) Multifamily. 5+ unit apartment complex 3) Self Storage 4) Warehouse and Light Industrial 5) Single and multi tenant retail 6) Medical Office Buildings 7) RV and Mobile Home Parks 8) Farmland or Timber production 8) Almost anything that involves getting money in exchange for the use land and any improvements attached to said land. Roles you can take: 1) Direct investor who owns the entire investment either cash or leveraged 2) Partner with another investor (DYODD and DYODD again) 3) Share of a syndication 4) Sponsor your own syndication Under any of these roles there is a range of involvement in property management. Generally the larger the property or portfolio, the more you will hire out to professionals. We make too much money as hourly airline employees to be our own plumber, painter and leasing agent. It generally doesn't represent wise use of our time unless the work is enjoyable. REITs generally capture all of the tax benefits within the REIT and don't pass through to the investor. There are tax benefits beyond depreciation, long term capital gains, 1031 exchanges, equity stripping and business deductions. Research the carried interest provision and you will discover a properly structured portfolio may qualify for tax treatment similar to what is typical of hedge fund billionaires. It isn't practical for just a few rental houses, but once you have a few million dollars of property it could make sense. We are talking about playing by the rules of the rich, so spend some time learning those rules... As far as energy goes, you can invest in proven oil and gas wells for predictable cash flows. For a small speculative portion of your overall investment portfolio, you can play in the exploration and maybe even well reclamation space and claim an immediate 80% tax deduction. This is new territory for me, so I get out of my depth pretty quickly. I only know about the exploration and reclamation space as an outsider, I'm still researching my first investments. There are also some green energy tax credits that may match up with real estate investments. Please don't trust everything you read on APC. DYODD and invest some time and money in your education. There are lots of good resources like books, podcasts, websites and conferences. Many of them are free, some will require in investment of both time and money. |
Between Delta and flying fun airplanes, surfing, fishing, sailing, diving and hanging out with grand kids I just don’t have time for another job or jobs! How many millions do you need?
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
(Post 2757810)
Between Delta and flying fun airplanes, surfing, fishing, sailing, diving and hanging out with grand kids I just don’t have time for another job or jobs! How many millions do you need?
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