Sick Verification
02-26-2019 | 05:40 PM
#21
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02-26-2019 | 05:49 PM
#22
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From: NYC 7ERA
I would have been happy with positive space home. Much better to get better laying in bed with wife bringing gatorade and saltines, than either in the hotel with housekeeping knocking every 5 minutes despite the do not disturb sign, or in the crash pad.
I got positive space to JFK.
I got positive space to JFK.
02-26-2019 | 07:19 PM
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From: 7ER B...whatever that means.
I would have been happy with positive space home. Much better to get better laying in bed with wife bringing gatorade and saltines, than either in the hotel with housekeeping knocking every 5 minutes despite the do not disturb sign, or in the crash pad.
I got positive space to JFK.
I got positive space to JFK.
I got sick mid-trip once (food poisoning). Toughed it out and worked the flight back to a hub only to realize that my wife still had my house keys with her while visiting family on the other side of the country from home. Never left the airport and just booked myself PS to my parent's place (different part of the country from where I live) to recuperate for a few days. Never talked to anyone, never heard a peep about it.
02-26-2019 | 07:38 PM
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I had thought we were supposed to be able to go home if sick, but crew tracking said positive space to base, stay in hotel until well or get self home.
I took the positive space to JFK, since its easier to get home from than BOS, and if non rev fell through my crash pad was there at least.
I was too sick / out of it to look up in the contract. I got on the last JS home so it was not an issue.
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I took the positive space to JFK, since its easier to get home from than BOS, and if non rev fell through my crash pad was there at least.
I was too sick / out of it to look up in the contract. I got on the last JS home so it was not an issue.
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02-27-2019 | 04:42 AM
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I had thought we were supposed to be able to go home if sick, but crew tracking said positive space to base, stay in hotel until well or get self home.
I took the positive space to JFK, since its easier to get home from than BOS, and if non rev fell through my crash pad was there at least.
I was too sick / out of it to look up in the contract. I got on the last JS home so it was not an issue.
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I took the positive space to JFK, since its easier to get home from than BOS, and if non rev fell through my crash pad was there at least.
I was too sick / out of it to look up in the contract. I got on the last JS home so it was not an issue.
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02-27-2019 | 05:26 AM
#27
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Get PS back to base and had to nonrev home. Told explicitly you can’t JS. Call the duty pilot - they’ll help. You can use PS on whichever leg looks worse load wise. Had to do this a year ago from food poising on a layover.
02-27-2019 | 06:09 AM
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So you must either non rev home, or return to base PS instead of going PS directly home, but you can then pick if you want the sick place to base leg or the base to home leg to be PS but not the sick place to home leg? That make absolutely no sense. You can't PS home, but you can non rev to base and then PS home? That's absolutely insane.
02-27-2019 | 12:23 PM
#29
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From: assume it
This horrendous provision has to go...
Make no mistake: "Sick Leave Verification" is another term for "Pilot Pushing."
The pilot is the expert on whether they're healthy and able to fly, not some random stranger in the form of a "doc in the box."
Nobody from Flight Ops is coming down the jetway asking for a doctor note when they need you to automatically extend your duty day or go up to 16 hours....are they? (Are you rested? Did you have enough or anything to eat today?) They trust you that you are a professional and will make the safe call.
But go over 99.99 hours of sick leave and now you are "no longer trustworthy" is the message being put forth.
No bueno and hope it is addressed in the next contract.
The pilot is the expert on whether they're healthy and able to fly, not some random stranger in the form of a "doc in the box."
Nobody from Flight Ops is coming down the jetway asking for a doctor note when they need you to automatically extend your duty day or go up to 16 hours....are they? (Are you rested? Did you have enough or anything to eat today?) They trust you that you are a professional and will make the safe call.
But go over 99.99 hours of sick leave and now you are "no longer trustworthy" is the message being put forth.
No bueno and hope it is addressed in the next contract.
02-27-2019 | 06:24 PM
#30
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From: The Buck
Make no mistake: "Sick Leave Verification" is another term for "Pilot Pushing."
The pilot is the expert on whether they're healthy and able to fly, not some random stranger in the form of a "doc in the box."
Nobody from Flight Ops is coming down the jetway asking for a doctor note when they need you to automatically extend your duty day or go up to 16 hours....are they? (Are you rested? Did you have enough or anything to eat today?) They trust you that you are a professional and will make the safe call.
But go over 99.99 hours of sick leave and now you are "no longer trustworthy" is the message being put forth.
No bueno and hope it is addressed in the next contract.
The pilot is the expert on whether they're healthy and able to fly, not some random stranger in the form of a "doc in the box."
Nobody from Flight Ops is coming down the jetway asking for a doctor note when they need you to automatically extend your duty day or go up to 16 hours....are they? (Are you rested? Did you have enough or anything to eat today?) They trust you that you are a professional and will make the safe call.
But go over 99.99 hours of sick leave and now you are "no longer trustworthy" is the message being put forth.
No bueno and hope it is addressed in the next contract.
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