Voluntary sick verification
03-22-2017, 09:24 AM
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Voluntary sick verification
Had to go out sick mid trip a while back and was sick to the point where I ended up at the doctor. While I was there I had him fill out a sick leave verification form. I sent it to pilot leaves and they responded by saying effective Dec 1, 2016 they no longer accept voluntary verification. So we can only be forced to verify per the CPO/PWA? I suppose that's the contract, but if I can voluntarily verify and keep myself below the 100 hours as the rolling 12 month period rolls on, I don't see the harm in that.
I'm sure there's a good reason behind this, what is it?
I'm sure there's a good reason behind this, what is it?
03-22-2017, 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by mispoken
Had to go out sick mid trip a while back. Was close to some other leave and was sick to the point where I ended up at the doctor. While I was there I had him fill out a sick leave verification form. I sent it to pilot leaves and they responded by saying effective Dec 1, 2016 they no longer accept voluntary verification. So we can only be forced to verify per the CPO/PWA? I suppose that's the contract, but if I can voluntarily verify and keep myself below the 100 hours as the rolling 12 month period rolls on, I don't see the harm in that.
I'm sure there's a good reason behind this, what is it?
I'm sure there's a good reason behind this, what is it?
03-22-2017, 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by mispoken
Had to go out sick mid trip a while back and was sick to the point where I ended up at the doctor. While I was there I had him fill out a sick leave verification form. I sent it to pilot leaves and they responded by saying effective Dec 1, 2016 they no longer accept voluntary verification. So we can only be forced to verify per the CPO/PWA? I suppose that's the contract, but if I can voluntarily verify and keep myself below the 100 hours as the rolling 12 month period rolls on, I don't see the harm in that.
I'm sure there's a good reason behind this, what is it?
I'm sure there's a good reason behind this, what is it?
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03-22-2017, 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by mispoken
So we can only be forced to verify per the CPO/PWA? I suppose that's the contract, but if I can voluntarily verify and keep myself below the 100 hours as the rolling 12 month period rolls on, I don't see the harm in that.
I'm sure there's a good reason behind this, what is it?
I'm sure there's a good reason behind this, what is it?
What's the harm is waiting if/when you hit the 100 hour mark?
03-22-2017, 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Karnak
My understanding is the company believed pilots were submitting voluntary verification at points during the year that were convenient for them, resulting in higher-than-average sick usage by those pilots.
What's the harm is waiting if/when you hit the 100 hour mark?
What's the harm is waiting if/when you hit the 100 hour mark?
03-22-2017, 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by gloopy
... the harm could easily be dependent on the exact nature of the sick call at the post 100 hour mark. Calling out for a moderate stomachache/headache or other issues that may or may not be verifiable to a third party? At that point you have a choice: roll the dice and hope it works out, despite a potential "ops check normal could not duplicate" letter, or just tough it out and press on and fly anyway.
Harm?
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