Voluntary sick verification
#41
I'd bet most "Platinum Days" abusers will be experts on the rolling 12 month sick hours. And they'll also have a friendly doc that will sign a verification that they had a cold 2 weeks prior.
Just saying, this new policy won't stop abuse, it'll just harass the non-abusers who happen to trigger the look back hour provision, and will be a minor inconvenience to those whom it's ostensibly aimed.
#42
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I think you have it wrong who the policy is aimed at. Haters gonna hate abusers gonna abuse. This policy is about making any fence sitter err on the side of coming to work. Instant productivity! Add to that all the verification paperwork the company no longer has to handle, and they are making out great.
#44
I can visualize the discussion between the flight ops folks and the HR lawyers. A lot of spreadsheet pointing, lamenting, and clutching of pearls.
Regardless of what issues they were trying to address, the fundamentals haven't changed:
1. Pilots self-certify their fitness to fly. Not a doctor. The pilot.
2. The company will always try to make us more productive. It's their job!
3. The union tries to prevent the company's efforts from harming us.
There are probably 13,954 interpretations about the steps taken in those three, if for no other reason than terms like "fitness", "productive", and "harm" are subjective. Add to that the differences in the way each of the parties prioritize goals.
#46
My rant is water under the bridge at this point. But one thing I'd like to express for anybody's consideration: you don't know what others face in terms of health challenges unless you walk in their shoes. Our sick verification policy dilutes a pilot's right and obligation to self-screen for fitness to fly. End of story. You can rationalize it by saying " wow, you can get a month-plus off without verification" or "this just impacts a few pilots." Be glad it's not you. Before supporting additional erosion of sick benefits in a future TA, consider that it could be you at some point , and reject the proposal.
#47
My understanding there was no change to accruals, or access to benefits. I think the only changes were to the verification trigger(s).
What others did I miss?
#48
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>>My understanding there was no change to accruals, or access to benefits. I think the only changes were to the verification trigger(s).
What others did I miss?<<<
--Defn of QHCP
--Ability to Voluntarily verify before verification threshold reached
--Ability to verify with "other proof of illness"
--Company now pays for Dr on;y under GFB or if they reject the QHCP note
--White slip awards constrained if pilot uses sick
--Green slip awards constrained if pilot uses sick
--15 day rule eliminated.
Ask a question.....
What others did I miss?<<<
--Defn of QHCP
--Ability to Voluntarily verify before verification threshold reached
--Ability to verify with "other proof of illness"
--Company now pays for Dr on;y under GFB or if they reject the QHCP note
--White slip awards constrained if pilot uses sick
--Green slip awards constrained if pilot uses sick
--15 day rule eliminated.
Ask a question.....
#49
>>My understanding there was no change to accruals, or access to benefits. I think the only changes were to the verification trigger(s).
What others did I miss?<<<
--Defn of QHCP
--Ability to Voluntarily verify before verification threshold reached
--Ability to verify with "other proof of illness"
--Company now pays for Dr on;y under GFB or if they reject the QHCP note
--White slip awards constrained if pilot uses sick
--Green slip awards constrained if pilot uses sick
--15 day rule eliminated.
Ask a question.....
What others did I miss?<<<
--Defn of QHCP
--Ability to Voluntarily verify before verification threshold reached
--Ability to verify with "other proof of illness"
--Company now pays for Dr on;y under GFB or if they reject the QHCP note
--White slip awards constrained if pilot uses sick
--Green slip awards constrained if pilot uses sick
--15 day rule eliminated.
Ask a question.....
#50
Karnak, are you in the current administration? Serious question. For years you have sought always to defend and justify the most ridiculous, concessionary, and harmful contractual language by painting anyone who disagrees with it as a lying and/or cheating scumbag.
Were you in contract admin and communications? What is your current position?
Being forced to go to a doctor much more frequently is most certainly an erosion of a benefit for professionals and grown-ups.
Were you in contract admin and communications? What is your current position?
Being forced to go to a doctor much more frequently is most certainly an erosion of a benefit for professionals and grown-ups.
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