Delta: Buy video games instead of union dues.
05-11-2019, 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Gunfighter
If the Delta FAs had a union, we could stop being their de-facto negotiators. This creates potential for improving the PWA by removing the "me too" costing from negotiations.
Do it already. It’s only a matter of time.
05-11-2019, 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Gunfighter
If the Delta FAs had a union, we could stop being their de-facto negotiators. This creates potential for improving the PWA by removing the "me too" costing from negotiations.
05-11-2019, 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Gunfighter
If the Delta FAs had a union, we could stop being their de-facto negotiators. This creates potential for improving the PWA by removing the "me too" costing from negotiations.
You’re a flight attendant, you get the pay and benefits of a flight attendant. I’m a pilot, I get what my negotiating committee puts in our PWA. Simple as that. You want the option to get braces? Then either pay the amount out of pocket for the braces or go pay $100,000 and learn to fly, work at the regionals for a while, and then come back to Delta and get your braces under our prestigious DPMP Dental plan.
05-11-2019, 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by DALFA
It has been explained on previous posts here on APC that with the last contract the requirement to carry both the medical and dental as a package was removed. This was confirmed by someone from the R&I committee I flew with.
Perhaps someone can get clarification?
Perhaps someone can get clarification?
05-11-2019, 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by PassportPlump
You’re a flight attendant, you get the pay and benefits of a flight attendant. I’m a pilot, I get what my negotiating committee puts in our PWA. Simple as that. You want the option to get braces? Then either pay the amount out of pocket for the braces or go pay $100,000 and learn to fly, work at the regionals for a while, and then come back to Delta and get your braces under our prestigious DPMP Dental plan.
05-11-2019, 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by symbian simian
Awesome, so I guess you could get another 1.5% and get rid of the union too?
Let me phrase it another way. If all the FAs hated being non union so much, they would have voted AFA in last time. If they choose to unionize it is their decision, it didn't seem to be a big deal to the majority of them then and doesn't appear to be now.
05-11-2019, 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by PassportPlump
Great post and a great point. Shocking that DAL FA can stir the pot yet again with another pointless post. If you want all the perks of being a pilot DAL FA, then be a pilot! I personally would love to have all the perks that Ed Bastian has, stock options, first class travel, a robust compensation package... but guess what? I am a measly line pilot and not the CEO of the company.
You’re a flight attendant, you get the pay and benefits of a flight attendant. I’m a pilot, I get what my negotiating committee puts in our PWA. Simple as that. You want the option to get braces? Then either pay the amount out of pocket for the braces or go pay $100,000 and learn to fly, work at the regionals for a while, and then come back to Delta and get your braces under our prestigious DPMP Dental plan.
You’re a flight attendant, you get the pay and benefits of a flight attendant. I’m a pilot, I get what my negotiating committee puts in our PWA. Simple as that. You want the option to get braces? Then either pay the amount out of pocket for the braces or go pay $100,000 and learn to fly, work at the regionals for a while, and then come back to Delta and get your braces under our prestigious DPMP Dental plan.
But we all know that your comment isn’t about what you say it is. It’s the ignorance of too many in the Delta pilot group that still think that being the only major group at Delta with a contract is actually a good thing for Delta pilots.
05-11-2019, 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by DALFA
It’s the ignorance of too many in the Delta pilot group that still think that being the only major group at Delta with a contract is actually a good thing for Delta pilots.
