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PassportPlump 07-20-2019 05:02 PM

Operation is running on red line
 
There is no way that this weekend isn’t a statement that we are running at red line. During normal ops it’s okay, but this is a bad weekend.

We have had crew cancellations. Sure.

We also have flights going at insanely late hours. For example, last night 1720 DTW to GRR. 3:19am departure. 4:11am arrival. Delayed 4:36.

That’s one I saw on the board that stood out to me. Several others significantly delayed. Some until 9AM today. We still completed the flights, but what a mess.

There is no way that this can’t go unnoticed by the 4th floor crowd. With LCWs 75-90 not being sustainable, ANY hiccup in our operation, especially in a hub sends us off the deep end.

We were also 3:20 late last night. Waiting for a captain. My captain timed out because of a green slip that he picked up the other night to cover them during a storm.

This is not sustainable long term.

CX500T 07-20-2019 05:05 PM

I'm on reroute number 4 of a four day. Hafeht had a rest over 11 hours.

Legal but I'm beat.

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RightSide 07-20-2019 05:16 PM

I’m on reroute number 6 this trip! All with 10 hours of rest!

ppping 07-20-2019 05:29 PM

I am on reroute 3 on day 2. Plane I flew first flight out this morning was supposed to get in at 2230 last night got in at 0245. Calling crew tracking to get enough hours behind the door took about an hour and a massive exercise in restraint. Call accommodations to change the van time and she says do it yourself I am to busy. She must have been I was on hold for 20 minutes. I feel optimized!

PassportPlump 07-20-2019 05:34 PM

My flight out in the morning is “on time” but one of the FAs doesn’t land from seattle until departure + 4 hours.

So that’ll be a blast showing up at 545AM and then seeing that we are delayed until 10:20AM.

MSP7ERB 07-20-2019 07:54 PM

Major storms in all hubs. $h1t happens.

ppping 07-21-2019 01:35 AM

Redline works fine until the weather rolls in. Split crew pairings don’t work when flights start getting delayed. 90 hour lines burn people out so they don’t want or need to pick up extra time.

Trip7 07-21-2019 03:08 AM


Originally Posted by MSP7ERB (Post 2856500)
Major storms in all hubs. $h1t happens.

Exactly. The storms in nearly every Delta hub daily are the biggest contributing factor for the operation struggling. You can't predict mother nature and its not fiscally responsibile to staff an airline for summer long IROPS and be massively overstaffed the rest of the year.

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Trip7 07-21-2019 03:10 AM


Originally Posted by ppping (Post 2856555)
Redline works fine until the weather rolls in. Split crew pairings don’t work when flights start getting delayed. 90 hour lines burn people out so they don’t want or need to pick up extra time.

People are stepping up and picking up extra time. It's just that there is literally no one left. Folks are on GS #4+

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ppping 07-21-2019 03:59 AM

Exactly. Shouldn’t have stopped hiring.


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