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NeverFlexTO 07-21-2019 11:17 AM

A little birdy told me a few weeks ago when SD was still here he chose to run the operation a little “fatter” on pilots for this issue we are seeing. When EB wanted all non fuel costs reduced by 1-2% this year, the higher ups on the 4th floor chose to reduce hiring to comply with that outlook. According to some of the people “in the know” we were averaging 500 GS’s a month last year this time this year we’ve been averaging between 6k-8k a month during the summer so far since May...

3 green 07-21-2019 11:18 AM


Originally Posted by tennisguru (Post 2856618)
88B

Filler

Next month the pilot reserve levels show that the ATL 88B is way over staffed most days, and I mean way overstaffed.

BigHitterLlama 07-21-2019 11:41 AM


Originally Posted by NeverFlexTO (Post 2856770)
A little birdy told me a few weeks ago when SD was still here he chose to run the operation a little “fatter” on pilots for this issue we are seeing. When EB wanted all non fuel costs reduced by 1-2% this year, the higher ups on the 4th floor chose to reduce hiring to comply with that outlook. According to some of the people “in the know” we were averaging 500 GS’s a month last year this time this year we’ve been averaging between 6k-8k a month during the summer so far since May...

8 THOUSAND green slips a month? Yikes.

ERflyer 07-21-2019 12:51 PM


Originally Posted by NeverFlexTO (Post 2856770)
A little birdy told me a few weeks ago when SD was still here he chose to run the operation a little “fatter” on pilots for this issue we are seeing. When EB wanted all non fuel costs reduced by 1-2% this year, the higher ups on the 4th floor chose to reduce hiring to comply with that outlook. According to some of the people “in the know” we were averaging 500 GS’s a month last year this time this year we’ve been averaging between 6k-8k a month during the summer so far since May...

GS & A:
5,000 last June.
8,600 this June.

Herkflyr 07-21-2019 01:38 PM


Originally Posted by ERflyer (Post 2856798)
GS & A:

5,000 last June.

8,600 this June.

GS DUTY PERIODS, not trips! That's how it has always been measured. Still a lot.

Hank Kingsley 07-21-2019 04:03 PM

And yet I sit on my deck drinking a fine Helles looking at the Rocky Mountains. Green slips are not the answer. More pilots and more $$. I won't fly them. Time off is the reason to have this job.

gloopy 07-21-2019 04:34 PM


Originally Posted by PilotJ3 (Post 2856727)
I called scheduling today to ask a question and the guy seemed overwhelmed and irritated, at 10am. I felt sorry for him, it’s a hard job try to cover all this flying without pilots.

And without adequate CS and even subs like whoever does the hotel accoms etc. Big storms in hubs are a valid excuse to cancel flights and do some RR's (although IMO all RR's should be premium pay but I digress) but its not an excuse to have so few CS resources that on duty pilots are sleeping in crew rooms in markets where there's no way you're getting a hotel on your own when that happens. There is never an excuse for that even if they didn't light 14B on fire. All airlines are drawn to that model though because its simply irresistible. Most days it saves money.

Running lean is different than running redline and there has to be the infrastructure to support the inevitable reality of what happens when you run redline and the inevitable IROPS etc happens.

hvydvr 07-21-2019 04:52 PM


Originally Posted by ERflyer (Post 2856798)
GS & A:
5,000 last June.
8,600 this June.

June was the most monthly GS awarded in the company’s history. I have a feeling such a historic record is going to last all of 30 days.

Trip7 07-21-2019 05:48 PM


Originally Posted by Hank Kingsley (Post 2856887)
And yet I sit on my deck drinking a fine Helles looking at the Rocky Mountains. Green slips are not the answer. More pilots and more $$. I won't fly them. Time off is the reason to have this job.

You should quit. 100% time off[emoji23]

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Gspeed 07-21-2019 06:20 PM


Originally Posted by 3 green (Post 2856771)
Next month the pilot reserve levels show that the ATL 88B is way over staffed most days, and I mean way overstaffed.

You sure about that? It’s nowhere near as overstaffed as it was last Fall and Winter.


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