notEnuf

I'm glad you have an optimistic view, someone certainly needs to hold out hope. I don't think Delta will be interested in expanding our flying, but our brand, yes. I think the big eye opener in this negotiation will be management liberalizing the use of the widget.

Remember that Delta had a plan for Virgin well in advance of their buying it. Now that those airplanes are flying the routes Delta wants, they can be dressed in any attire. This will then spread throughout the global partners as the virtual merger strategy is completed.

Trip7

Not so much optimistic but more long term analytical thinking. The future of the Asia Pacific region is very bright. Many investment firms have initiated bigger positions in Emerging Markets for a reason. South Korea with its technology has huge potential. Vietnam is expanding manufacturing. Delta has focused on domestic for the past several years and rightfully so. It's been very profitable and in the interest of getting the best Return on Invested Capital investing in domestic aircraft like the 220/717/321/739 proved to be a very profitable business decision. We are rewarded in our Profit Sharing for that decision.

Now with the A350 and 330NEO Delta has a much stronger and efficient product to complete in international markets like the Asia Pacific. That combined with refurbished 777 and 764 will allow Delta to expand widebody Int'l block hours profitably. The acceleration of 330neo deliveries next year is the first sign of that.

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TED74

How much of my profit sharing should I attribute to this business decision? I know you'd only be estimating since it's unknowable, but I am interested what percentage of our profits you think I owe (IYHO) to this strategy... and not simply to other inputs. "Because profit sharing" is an easy catch-all for lots of things, and I'm sure they all contribute. But that means each is of diluted value WRT my profit sharing take-home. Personally, I'd just like to see more international Delta metal flying and fewer stock buybacks.

[Other things people tell me are responsible for my profit sharing checks: Total fuel cost, the price of oil, NPS, on-time performance, schedule integrity, current manning formula, infrequent AEs, 737Max debacle, saying goodbye to passengers, holding the parking break until the alley is clear, terminal construction initiatives, APU fuel management, network flexibility, long sits, 30-hour efficiency layovers, additional SC usage, efficiency reroutes, TCI slow, JV feeds to our domestic network, JV feeds off our international network, JV widebody profits, RCC input denials, low-cost SILs, limited summer vacation, 1% expense rise limitations, removal of pubs kits from the cockpit, below-wing process improvements, Delta WX forecasting, the price of oil, ME3 resistance initiatives]

tunes

okay, i literally sat in the room with one of the people in charge of that stuff and they said singapore and manilla aren't happening.

try going to the actual source instead of parroting talking points you've been given.

tunes

didn't they say that the AM stuff accounted for less than $10 in our profit sharing?

theUpsideDown

Handlers? The HR people he's good buddies with and a couple around campus he's glommed onto? Common man, this is his shtick. He's perfectly happy to just-say- things, he already knows everything so theres no reason for you or him to fact check himself.

Trip7

I do notice you had no objection about Hong Kong. Again, I'm not about to go back and forth about layovers. Bottom line is, block hours will increase on higher paying aircraft in the Pacific. It's a win for Delta pilots



Not sure how much profit sharing you should attribute. The point was Delta heavily invested in the most profitable part of its business, domestic flying, over the few years. That resulted in record pilot hiring and the best financial performance of any airline in the history of the business, which was reflected in our profit sharing. Delta's robust domestic network will now be leveraged to grow international. Will be great to watch. Starting with the Nov/Dec AE



That is based off the Delta's ownership stake in AeroMexico. 49% of AeroMexico group's profit. What is unaccounted for is how much has the JV increased Delta's domestic revenues and overall profit.

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tunes

because i did not ask about hong kong. I specifically asked about the other two and was told don't count on serving them again. Funny how you backtrack from specifically naming destinations to your broad generalities when called out, yet in the same sentence you specifically list a destination again that wasn't refuted...convenient you might say.

Trip7

Don't count on serving them again? We aren't pulling out of Manila which was a big surprise to you along with many others when it was announced from ICN.

You can call me out all you want. At the end of the day these are just guesses into the future and we can debate those guesses all day. Eventually we will find out who's right about what cities return to service.



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tunes

as an editor you should know that you should preface them as your opinions. you present them as some info from 'top men' when that's not the case. Manila specifically as served from the west coast direct like your 'top men' claim to keep happening.

The current ICN-MNL that we are supposed to operate, we don't even have government approval or slots to do it yet...so we've got that going for us.