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freezingflyboy 09-25-2019 04:48 PM


Originally Posted by Big E 757 (Post 2893373)
They fly to 12 destinations in the US....How many do we fly to in France? Or add KLM, How many destinations do we fly to in France and the Netherlands?

I’ll give you a hint, it’s less than 4, but more than 2.

Not really a fair comparison when you consider that the United States has approximately four times the population spread over approximately 15 times the land area vs the Netherlands and France combined.:rolleyes:

firstmob 09-25-2019 04:50 PM


Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF (Post 2893225)
So even though we don’t fly BOS to FCO right now, but we will next summer, it doesn’t count as new because those cities are already served by us, just using different city pairs?

Seems new to me.

Not to me we already fly to FCO and have int'l service frOm BOS!

m3113n1a1 09-25-2019 04:55 PM

Honestly I'd rather do 10 flights per day to Amsterdam than 8 individual flights to awesome international layover cities. I go to work to make money as efficiently as possible. I'll travel the world on my days off and go to places that I actually want to go. So I take any increase to our flying as a victory, even if the variety decreases!

And no, I don't wear New Balance sneakers. Nor do I have an affinity for Irish bars or Applebee's ;)

freezingflyboy 09-25-2019 05:36 PM


Originally Posted by m3113n1a1 (Post 2893397)
Honestly I'd rather do 10 flights per day to Amsterdam than 8 individual flights to awesome international layover cities. I go to work to make money as efficiently as possible. I'll travel the world on my days off and go to places that I actually want to go. So I take any increase to our flying as a victory, even if the variety decreases!

And no, I don't wear New Balance sneakers. Nor do I have an affinity for Irish bars or Applebee's ;)

That way of thinking seems dangerously contemporary! Nevermind the increased total number of flights (albeit to hubs, yes), how do you expect the company to be profitable if we don't have layovers in Budapest or Sapporo!? ;)

Hank Kingsley 09-25-2019 05:48 PM


Originally Posted by Gunfighter (Post 2893222)
Oui, but there is a poster who goes by Septième Voyage, who is bragging about the expanded service to SVO, BUD, OTP, KBP, etc. They wouldn't have them without the Delta JV and those sweet ATL or DTW layovers.

Those were some seriously good layovers, especially 48 hours plus.

Trip7 09-25-2019 07:33 PM


Originally Posted by m3113n1a1 (Post 2893397)
Honestly I'd rather do 10 flights per day to Amsterdam than 8 individual flights to awesome international layover cities. I go to work to make money as efficiently as possible. I'll travel the world on my days off and go to places that I actually want to go. So I take any increase to our flying as a victory, even if the variety decreases!



And no, I don't wear New Balance sneakers. Nor do I have an affinity for Irish bars or Applebee's ;)

Preach Brother, Preach!

Well said

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Buck Rogers 09-25-2019 07:42 PM

Hey, how bout we make an DALPA advisorary board that the company has to inform prior to any new route expansion. This board would then have the power to review the proposed city layover and write an LOA to be voted on by us.....and if the layover doesn't meet our"dope" threshold....we nix it


Yea, that's the ticket:D

gzsg 09-26-2019 01:53 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 2892354)
We also are getting 1 more A330 this year and 7 next year.
Edit: Plus 2 A350’s

Sailing

In addition to those 330s and 350s, how many other deliveries are scheduled in 2020?

And 2021?

Thanks

gzsg 09-26-2019 02:10 AM


Originally Posted by Han Solo (Post 2893015)
New service, resumption of service -- neither one should matter to pilots, it's growth or stagnation that matter. The company can call it whatever the stuff they want, but if the route is flown by a plane and pilots who used to be on a different route which no longer exists -- the Delta way -- then it's worthless to the pilot group. If the route is flown on a newly acquired plane that didn't replace an old plane and the company had to hire additional pilots to properly staff the new route, then it's a pilot group win.

And for the record, I'm not saying that Delta as a company is stagnated, recapturing regional flying has been awesome for both me and the company. But on the WB side it's been nothing but shuffling the deck chairs.

Looks like in 2020 we have a net gain of 100 pilots by June 1st for summer flying.

Do we still have 88 different categories? This would be a net gain of 1.4 pilots per category?

How many additional aircraft by June 2020?

DWC CAP10 USAF 09-26-2019 02:57 AM


Originally Posted by firstmob (Post 2893391)
Not to me we already fly to FCO and have int'l service frOm BOS!

So with that perspective, you wouldn’t be happy if we increased BOS-FCO to 10 flights a day on Delta Metal just because “we already go there”.

Makes perfect sense.


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