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Han Solo 09-26-2019 02:26 PM


Originally Posted by 53x11 (Post 2893898)
I think maybe the 14 we are getting with this deal are the A350-1000’s. Only reason I think that is LATAM has(had) 14 of them ordered and yet to be delivered. I could be wrong, just guessing.

Just got the the union email and they said 4 aircraft and 10 firm orders. Article on Deltanet estimates 12-24 months for government approval for a possible 2020 1st delivery.

StartngOvr 09-26-2019 05:10 PM


Originally Posted by MJP27 (Post 2893857)
Looks that way. Say goodbye to the 777



That’s probably a good bet. Not a fleet expansion, rather fleet consolidation.


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Gunfighter 09-26-2019 07:06 PM


Originally Posted by StartngOvr (Post 2893994)
That’s probably a good bet. Not a fleet expansion, rather fleet consolidation.


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"fleet transformation" is the wording from the Delta news page

https://news.delta.com/delta-and-lat...ghout-americas

sailingfun 09-27-2019 03:04 AM


Originally Posted by Han Solo (Post 2893904)
Just got the the union email and they said 4 aircraft and 10 firm orders. Article on Deltanet estimates 12-24 months for government approval for a possible 2020 1st delivery.

The government does not need to approve the aircraft sale. I suspect the first 4 to 8 would be structured as a independent transaction.

tunes 09-27-2019 04:00 AM

i dont think its all doom and gloom for the 777s. I could see them getting rid of the 200ERs but the 200LRs would have to say unless the 350-1000 or whatever it is could replace the LR

The Localizer 09-27-2019 04:17 AM

Maybe this is one of those times where something doesn’t have to go away just because we are getting something new, possible that the 777 are here for 10 more years

BigHitterLlama 09-27-2019 04:25 AM

How many 777LR do we have and how many 350 options plus LATAM -1000..?

sailingfun 09-27-2019 04:30 AM


Originally Posted by BigHitterLlama (Post 2894148)
How many 777LR do we have and how many 350 options plus LATAM -1000..?

We have 2 deliveries this Spring and 10 on order. Add in the LATAM aircraft and 26 total.

Trip7 09-27-2019 04:44 AM

Key quotes from Ed's Memo:

"The transformative partnership, building on our existing relationship with Aeromexico, will drive growth on Delta metal throughout the region for decades to come."

"It will vastly expand our ability to serve customers flying to, from and throughout the Americas, and generate opportunities for our people for the long term."

To me, Delta is taking the approach they did in 2012 that grew domestic mainline metal sustainably and applying it to international. I think the 14 A350s will be all growth no replacements due to this partnership. I think the 787 order may still be coming as part growth and part 777/765/7ER replacement. These JVs will allow Delta to continue to upgauge our Widebody RJs(767s) into a massive premium widebody fleet

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sailingfun 09-27-2019 05:21 AM


Originally Posted by Trip7 (Post 2894157)
Key quotes from Ed's Memo:

"The transformative partnership, building on our existing relationship with Aeromexico, will drive growth on Delta metal throughout the region for decades to come."

"It will vastly expand our ability to serve customers flying to, from and throughout the Americas, and generate opportunities for our people for the long term."

To me, Delta is taking the approach they did in 2012 that grew domestic mainline metal sustainably and applying it to international. I think the 14 A350s will be all growth no replacements due to this partnership. I think the 787 order may still be coming as part growth and part 777/765/7ER replacement. These JVs will allow Delta to continue to upgauge our Widebody RJs(767s) into a massive premium widebody fleet

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I agree that 787’s may be coming sooner rather than later.


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