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badflaps 09-27-2019 04:35 PM


Originally Posted by 20Fathoms (Post 2894478)
The LR really is a pretty unique bird and the addition of Mumbai flying has made it even more indispensable. I know they tried to put the A350 on Sydney but ended up not doing it. Like others have said, our ERs could easily be replaced by A350s but that would leave a fleet of only 10 aircraft. Has Delta ever had an orphan fleet that small?

Ya, the early 747's and a few years with 5 DC-10s. (1011 place holder)

20Fathoms 09-27-2019 04:37 PM


Originally Posted by badflaps (Post 2894588)
Ya, the early 747's and a few years with 5 DC-10s. (1011 place holder)

Interesting, thanks badflaps

sailingfun 09-27-2019 05:43 PM


Originally Posted by OOfff (Post 2894313)
I love that we have a deal nobody heard a whisper about, but people still trust the whispers about 787.

14 more 350s? This is good for the 787!

There were whispers of good things coming. I posted that on here in early August.

OOfff 09-28-2019 04:28 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 2894630)
There were whispers of good things coming. I posted that on here in early August.

If I had a nickel for every “good things are coming” rumor in aviation...

StartngOvr 09-28-2019 05:14 AM


Originally Posted by OOfff (Post 2894746)
If I had a nickel for every “good things are coming” rumor in aviation...



Free beer.....tomorrow!


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DELTAFO 09-28-2019 05:33 AM


Originally Posted by Gone Flying (Post 2894471)
according to wikipedia the ULR has a 44,000 gal fuel capacity. airbus press release matches this #

They turned a cargo bin into a fuel tank to get that capacity.

Trip7 09-28-2019 05:48 AM


Originally Posted by OOfff (Post 2894313)
I love that we have a deal nobody heard a whisper about, but people still trust the whispers about 787.



14 more 350s? This is good for the 787!

I'm guessing due to the relationship between Delta/GOL and AA/LATAM this type of deal needed to be top top secret. If AA got word of what was happening they could have reacted. On the other hand employee rumors about us getting the A220 or A350/A330neo before it happened have little impact on strategic airline partnerships. That's why I believe the 787 is heading to Delta soon.

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FL370esq 09-28-2019 06:12 AM


Originally Posted by DELTAFO (Post 2894768)
They turned a cargo bin into a fuel tank to get that capacity.

Oddly, they didn't. They just used more space in the existing wing tanks to cram in an extra 7,000 gallons or so.

I'm told Delta's problem isn't fuel capacity though....it's a max gross weight issue. The payload optimized flights leave with the ability to carry an extra 30-40K in fuel but can't because they are taxiing out at Max Gross Weight.

BigHitterLlama 09-28-2019 06:26 AM


Originally Posted by FL370esq (Post 2894784)
Oddly, they didn't. They just used more space in the existing wing tanks to cram in an extra 7,000 gallons or so.

I'm told Delta's problem isn't fuel capacity though....it's a max gross weight issue. The payload optimized flights leave with the ability to carry an extra 30-40K in fuel but can't because they are taxiing out at Max Gross Weight.

Sorry for not doing my research but I’m watching a ballet class and wrangling a 3 year old at the same time. Is this addressed by the PIP? Doesn’t that include an increased max gross weight? I thought I remember reading that on here.

Hank Kingsley 09-28-2019 07:32 AM


Originally Posted by crewdawg (Post 2894492)
Don't fly either, so I can verify, but guys on the other forum quoted the following mid flight fuel burns numbers.

777 = 8,000 pph
350 = 6,000-6,500 pph

That's low for the 777, 767 is 12k an hour. Fuel and thrust aren't a problem on the 777LR.


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