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crewdawg 09-28-2019 07:37 AM
Originally Posted by Hank Kingsley (Post 2894815)
That's low for the 777, 767 is 12k an hour. Fuel and thrust aren't a problem on the 777LR.
Multiply the numbers by two. ;)

Big E 757 09-28-2019 07:52 AM
Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 2894630)
There were whispers of good things coming. I posted that on here in early August.
Is this what you were talking about, SF? Is this what the whisperers were talking about? Were you aware of this deal, or were you just hearing that some exciting changes were coming?

FL370esq 09-28-2019 08:02 AM
Originally Posted by BigHitterLlama (Post 2894789)
Sorry for not doing my research but I’m watching a ballet class and wrangling a 3 year old at the same time. Is this addressed by the PIP? Doesn’t that include an increased max gross weight? I thought I remember reading that on here.
Yikes! Sounds like the next event for Tokyo 2020.

I think our last -900 was delivered with "the PIP" which gave it an extra 10K or so increase in takeoff GW. ULR is a separate beast.

BigHitterLlama 09-28-2019 08:29 AM
Originally Posted by FL370esq (Post 2894835)
Yikes! Sounds like the next event for Tokyo 2020.

I think our last -900 was delivered with "the PIP" which gave it an extra 10K or so increase in takeoff GW. ULR is a separate beast.
I hear dad bod is the new gold standard in Olympian’s so you may be right :D
Thanks - didn’t know if PIP was also applicable in other models.

Xray678 09-28-2019 08:49 AM
Originally Posted by Trip7 (Post 2894772)
I'm guessing due to the relationship between Delta/GOL and AA/LATAM this type of deal needed to be top top secret. If AA got word of what was happening they could have reacted. On the other hand employee rumors about us getting the A220 or A350/A330neo before it happened have little impact on strategic airline partnerships. That's why I believe the 787 is heading to Delta soon. k
Bastion quote from the other day “Well, we certainly have long-term needs for a wide-body aircraft. And as we've been very public, we've looked at whether we're going to continue to expand our A350 fleet or our Boeing fleet. This gives us an opportunity to expand the A350 fleet, which we have a relatively subscale amount of it, 15, today and it's right in line with our expectations.”

Certainly sounds like we are all in with Airbus.

Trip7 09-28-2019 01:08 PM
Originally Posted by Xray678 (Post 2894861)
Bastion quote from the other day “Well, we certainly have long-term needs for a wide-body aircraft. And as we've been very public, we've looked at whether we're going to continue to expand our A350 fleet or our Boeing fleet. This gives us an opportunity to expand the A350 fleet, which we have a relatively subscale amount of it, 15, today and it's right in line with our expectations.”



Certainly sounds like we are all in with Airbus.
Good points. A350 fleet has now been expanded so Delta no longer has 2 small subfleets of widebodies. Now the big question is, with the retirement of the ER imminent, will Delta continue to go all Airbus? IMO, I don't think they will remain dependent on a single manufacturer for widebodies and a large 787 order will be placed within the next 6 months

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20Fathoms 09-28-2019 01:18 PM
Originally Posted by Trip7 (Post 2894975)
Good points. A350 fleet has now been expanded so Delta no longer has 2 small subfleets of widebodies. Now the big question is, with the retirement of the ER imminent, will Delta continue to go all Airbus? IMO, I don't think they will remain dependent on a single manufacturer for widebodies and a large 787 order will be placed within the next 6 months

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I think you’re right with this one. Delta has historically been very good at playing the manufacturers against each other to get the best deal. For that to work, however, we cannot become too dependent on any one producer. For balance, a Boeing order seems necessary in the short to medium term future but what type?

Aside from niche LR routes like SYD, JNB, and BOM network has always seemed to regard the 777 as too big so I doubt we’d order more. The 797 is still basically scribbling on the back of a cocktail napkin at this point, and the 73 has PR problems and has been stretched to an event horizon so I agree the 787 seems the most likely candidate.

Xray678 09-28-2019 01:25 PM
Originally Posted by Trip7 (Post 2894975)
Good points. A350 fleet has now been expanded so Delta no longer has 2 small subfleets of widebodies. Now the big question is, with the retirement of the ER imminent, will Delta continue to go all Airbus? IMO, I don't think they will remain dependent on a single manufacturer for widebodies and a large 787 order will be placed within the next 6 months
Hope you’re right.....I don’t really want to fly the bus.

crewdawg 09-28-2019 01:33 PM
Originally Posted by Xray678 (Post 2894983)
Hope you’re right.....I don’t really want to fly the bus.
You against flying in comfort? :D

Hank Kingsley 09-28-2019 06:19 PM
Originally Posted by crewdawg (Post 2894818)
Multiply the numbers by two. ;)
Yea, thanks, flying these twins for 40 years, never measured fuel burn by one engine.


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