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Scooter432 09-27-2019 08:37 AM
Originally Posted by ERflyer (Post 2894298)
If the price is right it seems detesting has little to do with it.
Shack! This deal made good business sense.. it doesn’t validate the fact that Delta loves the 350.

Navmode 09-27-2019 04:25 PM
Originally Posted by cni187 (Post 2894274)
Don't believe anything until you see the AE memo. The word passed around the 737 school house was that management detests the 350 and they were all wishing we would order the 1967 Volkswagen Beetle with bluetooth and touchscreen navigation(737MAX) along with 787s.
Then we have EB and JG saying they’re happy with it...who knows

Dorfman 09-27-2019 06:04 PM
Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 2894169)
Those are great lookin numbers but since the big bid covered all know retirements and unplanned attrition through next May they seem a bit high.
These will be positions for summer 2020. 7 330s coming next year instead of 3. Plus retirements next year on all WBs make those numbers look realistic.

Dorfman 09-27-2019 06:08 PM
Originally Posted by cni187 (Post 2894274)
Don't believe anything until you see the AE memo. The word passed around the 737 school house was that management detests the 350 and they were all wishing we would order the 1967 Volkswagen Beetle with bluetooth and touchscreen navigation(737MAX) along with 787s.
Shocking that the 73 guys would pass a rumor of more 73s. We can only hope this isn’t true. :D

As for the 350. At different times I’ve heard network, marketing, and flight ops all say they liked the 350 and also heard them say they are disappointed in it. I guess we will see what happens.

MadDogMikeATL 09-27-2019 08:03 PM
Originally Posted by Trip7 (Post 2894161)
Word on Street:

40 777As 70 330As and 46 350As

And this is not including the additional 350 deliveries announced yesterday.

Lots of movement coming. One of these A positions dropping to a pilot in their 40s is not too far off
What street is that? Source? For one of those positions to go to a pilot in their 40s, the base would have to be NYC. Nobody wants to be junior on reserve in NYC.

Big E 757 09-27-2019 09:27 PM
Originally Posted by MadDogMikeATL (Post 2894680)
What street is that? Source? For one of those positions to go to a pilot in their 40s, the base would have to be NYC. Nobody wants to be junior on reserve in NYC.
You never know. There’ll always be guys chasing the pay rate.

I’m 48, hired in 2000. Still 3500 numbers away from the bottom A330 A in NYC. I just escaped NYC in June of this year on the A320.

If it hits guys in their 40s on the Nov/Dec bid, I’ll be surprised, but you never know.

duece12345 09-28-2019 03:43 AM
Originally Posted by Big E 757 (Post 2894700)
You never know. There’ll always be guys chasing the pay rate.

I’m 48, hired in 2000. Still 3500 numbers away from the bottom A330 A in NYC. I just escaped NYC in June of this year on the A320.

If it hits guys in their 40s on the Nov/Dec bid, I’ll be surprised, but you never know.
I think he was referring to further down the road. Those hired young in early 2014 will hold WB capt in their 40s no problem.

forgot to bid 09-28-2019 04:02 AM
Originally Posted by Scooter432 (Post 2894300)
Shack! This deal made good business sense.. it doesn’t validate the fact that Delta loves the 350.
Remember this is how we work as a company:

A) whatever we are doing is righteous and brilliant, until we change it

B) whatever our vendors are doing is frustrating and disappointing

PilotWombat 09-28-2019 04:31 AM
Originally Posted by duece12345 (Post 2894738)
I think he was referring to further down the road. Those hired young in early 2014 will hold WB capt in their 40s no problem.
SLC220A just went to a guy just past his fifth anniversary. I assume as these mega AE's continue, that will just keep falling. If that's the case, I and a lot of other guys will still solidly be in our 30's when we're able to upgrade. Heck, there will be some captains still in their 20's soon.

I don't know what that means for WB captains, but I imagine it won't be too long before we see some in their 30's.

Trip7 09-28-2019 04:45 AM
Originally Posted by PilotWombat (Post 2894747)
SLC220A just went to a guy just past his fifth anniversary. I assume as these mega AE's continue, that will just keep falling. If that's the case, I and a lot of other guys will still solidly be in our 30's when we're able to upgrade. Heck, there will be some captains still in their 20's soon.



I don't know what that means for WB captains, but I imagine it won't be too long before we see some in their 30's.
Already happened. ATLM88A went to several in 20s couple years ago. There was an NYC320A at 28 or 29. 88 young guns later got displaced. 320 one I'm not sure. You're right, it will happen again soon. While Delta won't get to the level of carriers like Emirates and Qatar that have 380 and 777 Captains in their 20s, age demographics will change significantly over the next few years

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