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01-11-2020, 08:17 AM
#161
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Sounds like a self created crisis to present to the NMB.
Company: We can't possibly increase vacation availability and credit because our hiring is at full capacity and we have optimized our summer therefore DALPA's QOL items are complete over reach and unobtainable.
Company: We can't possibly increase vacation availability and credit because our hiring is at full capacity and we have optimized our summer therefore DALPA's QOL items are complete over reach and unobtainable.
01-11-2020, 08:28 AM
#162
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
What did you hold?
01-11-2020, 09:09 AM
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All the vacations pushed into the offseason will just force the use of ivd/apd(hopefully pd) and the manning problem remains. There will still only be x amount of pilots Willing to fly. All this does is force open time to blossom after bid awards come out, which is less manageable and more expensive then just letting pilots enjoy their pre posted weeks off.
01-11-2020, 09:58 AM
#164
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Originally Posted by Snapdragon
All the vacations pushed into the offseason will just force the use of ivd/apd(hopefully pd) and the manning problem remains. There will still only be x amount of pilots Willing to fly. All this does is force open time to blossom after bid awards come out, which is less manageable and more expensive then just letting pilots enjoy their pre posted weeks off.
01-11-2020, 10:38 AM
#165
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Originally Posted by DALMD88FO
Everyone keeps talking about using IVD's this summer and IVD's only have to have coverage the same as an APD, except for the exception dates in the PWA, so I wonder how long it will take the company to come to the union for relief from this contractual right when the wheels fall off the wagon this summer.
The company wanted to reduce *allegedly abusive sick calls, so IVD's were negotiated as a way for pilots to ethically access time off. I don't see the pilot group being real willing to give them back unless we abolish sick leave verification.
01-11-2020, 10:52 AM
#166
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Originally Posted by LeineLodge
Good luck with that. They can ask all they want. IVD/APD's are the only card we have left to play when coverage is (always) in the negative. If you don't mind taking a pay hit, and making it up later, it's a nice option to have to get needed time off.
The company wanted to reduce *allegedly abusive sick calls, so IVD's were negotiated as a way for pilots to ethically access time off. I don't see the pilot group being real willing to give them back unless we abolish sick leave verification.
The company wanted to reduce *allegedly abusive sick calls, so IVD's were negotiated as a way for pilots to ethically access time off. I don't see the pilot group being real willing to give them back unless we abolish sick leave verification.
01-11-2020, 04:17 PM
#167
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Originally Posted by RockyBoy
And the reason why summer vacations were cut by 50% is because of the extra day of the year in Feb. Sure. That makes total sense.
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01-12-2020, 04:05 PM
#170
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Originally Posted by notEnuf
APD and IVD removed trips can be paid out of the vacation bank.
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