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Old 11-29-2019, 04:47 AM
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The word at the last Training Base Meeting was that the next bid would not be a 365 bid nor did Crew Resources want anymore 365 bids.
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Old 11-29-2019, 05:38 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun View Post
You are going to need to explain that one for me!


Okay. Let’s say there is a 320A vacancy.
320b takes the 320a
88b takes the 320b

A 350a vacancy
320a takes 350a
320b takes 320a
88b takes 320b

Multiple iterations and just an example but even with the 350a if a 350/777b takes it, it still creates the same amount of movement



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Originally Posted by JamesBond View Post
Weren't we reading that about the November AE?
I was thinking the same thing. Now it’s a cleanup bid?
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Old 11-29-2019, 05:40 AM
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Originally Posted by tunes View Post
Okay. Let’s say there is a 320A vacancy.
320b takes the 320a
88b takes the 320b

A 350a vacancy
320a takes 350a
320b takes 320a
88b takes 320b

Multiple iterations and just an example but even with the 350a if a 350/777b takes it, it still creates the same amount of movement



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That’s my point. It creates additional movement for senior guys but if your junior the movement is exactly the same.
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From what I understood, the Nov bid was more to take advantage of SIM availability through FEB2020. Thats why no 330 positions, SIMs were full until spring. With the increased hiring announced several months back, additional positions needed to be created as well, which sustains any staffing adjustments system wide. The Jan/Feb bid will be a continuation of the logic behind the Nov AE, but with MAR-MAY sim slot focus.
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Old 11-29-2019, 06:05 AM
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Originally Posted by tunes View Post
Okay. Let’s say there is a 320A vacancy.
320b takes the 320a
88b takes the 320b

A 350a vacancy
320a takes 350a
320b takes 320a
88b takes 320b

Multiple iterations and just an example but even with the 350a if a 350/777b takes it, it still creates the same amount of movement



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Not all the time. You are talking about a balanced system. We currently have certain categories that are overmanned. Like DTW 330b. The company has said they are not going to displace from that category but will let it naturally decrease as people bid to other equipment. So in your example you could have A330B to A350A, end of training waterfall effect.
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Old 11-29-2019, 07:15 AM
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Standing by for Sailingfun to capitalize on one guy who makes an overly pessimistic prediction with a “but the forum said the sky was falling” post.
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Old 11-29-2019, 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by DALMD88FO View Post
Not all the time. You are talking about a balanced system. We currently have certain categories that are overmanned. Like DTW 330b. The company has said they are not going to displace from that category but will let it naturally decrease as people bid to other equipment. So in your example you could have A330B to A350A, end of training waterfall effect.
That’s a more of a rare situation, though. Typically widebody A positions create up to 6 additional training events.

I have no idea what sailinfun thinks he is talking about...
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Old 11-29-2019, 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Han Solo View Post
Standing by for Sailingfun to capitalize on one guy who makes an overly pessimistic prediction with a “but the forum said the sky was falling” post.
The strange thing is I have been the one to post that both the Nov and planned Jan bid will not be what some are posting. It’s unusual on here for me to be the pessimist.
The thing some however can’t seem to grasp was the big bid was intended to cover the flying into summer of 2020. The extra bids and changes since then have been because network has expanded our block hour plans quite a bit since CR posted the bid and Airbus continues to struggle on deliveries causing fleet mix changes.
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Originally Posted by CheapTrick View Post
The word at the last Training Base Meeting was that the next bid would not be a 365 bid nor did Crew Resources want anymore 365 bids.
They put exactly the same thing in writing almost 3 years ago. Two huge big bids have followed.
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