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Old 03-08-2020 | 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Extenda
So this particular guy losing a defamation lawsuit negates what NOAA, the DoD and hundreds of other agencies say about anthropogenic climate change, and the threat it poses. I hope, for my kids sake, you’re right and this is a giant hoax. In the meantime I’ll keep believing the 99% instead of fishing around for the 1% that makes me feel good.
He's not a particular "guy". He's THE source that Al Gore and the rest of the CO2 global warming cabal used to justify their actions and punitive plans. You need to research this more. Do your homework.

Short answer. Yes. They all bought into the hype based on Dr Mann's now infamous CO2 hockey stick graph. You know, inertia and all.

Over 250 climatologists, meteorologists, and physicists (PhD level) had been rebuking Mann's graph because he falsified his data. They had proof. They called him on it. They knew Mann was agenda driven not science driven. He didn't like it, so he sued them for libel - actually he went after the leader Dr Ball.

Your kids are gonna be fine - never was an issue as it was all made up to begin with (see the court case).

"hundreds of other agencies" please, that does not lend credence to your argument when their actions are based on a lie. Ever wonder why the MSM has not mentioned this case? Hmmm? ever think about that?

Not about the feelz, it's about the truth.

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Old 03-08-2020 | 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Phins2right
He's not a particular "guy". He's THE source that Al Gore and the rest of the CO2 global warming cabal used to justify their actions and punitive plans. You need to research this more. Do your homework.



Short answer. Yes. They all bought into the hype based on Dr Mann's now infamous CO2 hockey stick graph. You know, inertia and all.



Over 250 climatologists, meteorologists, and physicists (PhD level) had been rebuking Mann's graph because he falsified his data. They had proof. They called him on it. They knew Mann was agenda driven not science driven. He didn't like it, so he sued them for libel - actually he went after the leader Dr Ball.



Your kids are gonna be fine - never was an issue as it was all made up to begin with (see the court case).



"hundreds of other agencies" please, that does not lend credence to your argument when their actions are based on a lie. Ever wonder why the MSM has not mentioned this case? Hmmm? ever think about that?



Not about the feelz, it's about the truth.
Any chance you guys could start a separate thread on this?

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Old 03-08-2020 | 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by OOfff
I’m not sure why you think climate change evidence begins and ends with Mann, not why you think anyone here has even stated an opinion on him.
Because you probably didn't know about him since you made this comment. He is the, no pun intended, "Mann". In the religion of climate change, he was your pope. Again, his graph was the genesis of your movement. Propelled by the prohets of Gore and the like. In the end, a movement based on a lie. Like I said to extenda, you need to do your homework.
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Old 03-08-2020 | 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by tcraft
Any chance you guys could start a separate thread on this?

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No, furloughs are right around the corner. Just ask anyone on APC. See back on topic - easy peesy.
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Old 03-08-2020 | 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by OOfff
the guy who wrote that is a signatory to the Evangelical Declaration on Global Warming, which states:


"We believe Earth and its ecosystems — created by God’s intelligent design and infinite power and sustained by His faithful providence — are robust, resilient, self-regulating, and self-correcting, admirably suited for human flourishing, and displaying His glory. Earth's climate system is no exception."

a robust scientific viewpoint, indeed 🥴

Joe D’Aleo wrote it. Here’s his bio. The rebuttal is all science based. Read it. There’s no religious non science in any of it. Joe is very mainstream and fact based. Unlike the AGW crowd that has based all its arguments on CO2... which is a greenhouse gas. A trace gas that has limited influence on climate. Water vapor is by far way more robust in trapping heat. The IPCC crowd is based on temp records that have been changed to make today’s minor warmth more dramatic. And ALL of the AGW based models have been wrong. All of them. There’s clearly way more to it than CO2. Even by going back in time and putting in real data, the models all still fail.

And if I were wrong, we still have China, India and Brazil building coal plants like crazy and if the US went to zero emissions tomorrow, it wouldn’t matter one bit. We can ruin our economy and maybe see .2 or .3 cooling as a result... if I were wrong. I’m not.

Here is Joe’s bio. Read the rebuttal. Try to prove it wrong. You can’t.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_D%27Aleo
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Old 03-08-2020 | 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Phins2right
Because you probably didn't know about him since you made this comment. He is the, no pun intended, "Mann". In the religion of climate change, he was your pope. Again, his graph was the genesis of your movement. Propelled by the prohets of Gore and the like. In the end, a movement based on a lie. Like I said to extenda, you need to do your homework.
Mann testifies before Congress and started the modern day hype with his Hockey Stick graph, that conveniently left out a huge climate heat wave called the Medieval Warm Period. He lied to Congress. He did start the modern hype. He’s a discredited scientist.
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Old 03-08-2020 | 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Phins2right
The ruling against Dr Mann - it's in the British Columbia Supreme Court case file. Go look it up it on their judgements website.

I bet, up until now, you had no idea about the case, the lawsuit Dr Mann brought against his critics, and the fact he got crushed by the court.

Also willing to bet you had no idea that there was a British Columbia Supreme Court, and that they have a judgements website.

Willful ignorance you say? Look in the mirror my friend.
that case has literally nothing do do with climate change, and the judge specifically writes that in the first paragraph of the judgment. It’s purely about defamation. Why are you hung up on this?

mann didn’t press the case forward and the judge said the delay negates the claim. THIS PROVES GLOBAL WARMING IS A HOAX!
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Old 03-08-2020 | 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Tailhookah
Joe D’Aleo wrote it. Here’s his bio. The rebuttal is all science based. Read it. There’s no religious non science in any of it. Joe is very mainstream and fact based. Unlike the AGW crowd that has based all its arguments on CO2... which is a greenhouse gas. A trace gas that has limited influence on climate. Water vapor is by far way more robust in trapping heat. The IPCC crowd is based on temp records that have been changed to make today’s minor warmth more dramatic. And ALL of the AGW based models have been wrong. All of them. There’s clearly way more to it than CO2. Even by going back in time and putting in real data, the models all still fail.

And if I were wrong, we still have China, India and Brazil building coal plants like crazy and if the US went to zero emissions tomorrow, it wouldn’t matter one bit. We can ruin our economy and maybe see .2 or .3 cooling as a result... if I were wrong. I’m not.

Here is Joe’s bio. Read the rebuttal. Try to prove it wrong. You can’t.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_D%27Aleo
every single item on the rebuttal is easily countered and explained by numerous respected climate science sources that aren’t conspiracy theorists.
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Old 03-08-2020 | 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Phins2right
No, furloughs are right around the corner. Just ask anyone on APC. See back on topic - easy peesy.
Check out the new “go anywhere” function on Travelnet. Pick any hub, look 12-18 hours out. The numbers are pretty sobering as to the effect Coronavirus is having on our bookings. Very sobering actually.
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Old 03-08-2020 | 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by CoefficientX
Check out the new “go anywhere” function on Travelnet. Pick any hub, look 12-18 hours out. The numbers are pretty sobering as to the effect Coronavirus is having on our bookings. Very sobering actually.
I have been stalking the loads from Atlanta to Salt lake for awhile for a ski trip. A week ago all the flights for a particular day had an average of 8 open. Now the average is closer to 50.
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