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Old 04-24-2020 | 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
Those reports are minimum staffing where the airline couldn't function. Actual required to run an airline would be around 10,000. They always freak people out in down times.

That report is actually relatively good, as that is about 70% when we are still anticipating being down. Really doesn't bode for furloughs at all.
With a little trickery you can still see the old August 2020 one. It had 13,537 for the total requirements. I'm not sure how to interpret the comparison.
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Old 04-24-2020 | 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by ChazzMMichaels
With a little trickery you can still see the old August 2020 one. It had 13,537 for the total requirements. I'm not sure how to interpret the comparison.
We were at least 1000 pilots short then with 14,500 and cancelling left and right due to lack of staffing. You know, that thunderstorm that wasn't planned. That's a data point...
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Old 04-24-2020 | 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
We were at least 1000 pilots short then with 14,500 and cancelling left and right due to lack of staffing. You know, that thunderstorm that wasn't planned. That's a data point...
Sorry, I worded that poorly. By "old" I meant the file that was in that spot before they posted Nov 2020. But 13,537 was the number they were forecasting in the "before times" for August 2020 requirements.
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Old 04-24-2020 | 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by ChazzMMichaels
Sorry, I worded that poorly. By "old" I meant the file that was in that spot before they posted Nov 2020. But 13,537 was the number they were forecasting in the "before times" for August 2020 requirements.
Doesnt change what I said, which is fun
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Old 04-24-2020 | 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
Doesnt change what I said, which is fun
The numbers do highlight the fact that early outs will cause a lot less training churn in the short term than furloughs will. Might motivate the company to offer better terms.
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Old 04-25-2020 | 03:07 AM
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Do the numbers really highlight anything? Are we not more concerned with the numbers for next summer?
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Old 04-25-2020 | 03:54 AM
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Originally Posted by crewdawg
Do the numbers really highlight anything? Are we not more concerned with the numbers for next summer?

That depends, do you want to be rational or jump on the FUD Doom and gloom bandwagon?


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Old 04-25-2020 | 05:01 AM
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I think you’re talking about August 2019. The way I look at it is we have 6000 fewer pilots required 8 months after this started.

Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
We were at least 1000 pilots short then with 14,500 and cancelling left and right due to lack of staffing. You know, that thunderstorm that wasn't planned. That's a data point...
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Old 04-25-2020 | 05:34 AM
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Originally Posted by weekendflyer
November 2020 forecast of pilot requirements came out this evening on delta net, 7,370 pilots forecasted on the seniority list?!?!
Thanks for posting.
Interesting how some categories were trimmed down more than others. Makes sense to keep A220 going with least reduction.

Does this mean they are close to finalizing fleet plan? Which per JL video means next step is ERP offer. Hopefully next week?

Also hypothetically speaking if for example the 88/90 are parked today and those pilots can’t get into training until say November what would their pay look like between now and then?
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Old 04-25-2020 | 06:15 AM
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TSA throughput numbers https://www.tsa.gov/coronavirus/passenger-throughput last few days:
4/24/2020 123,464
4/23/2020 111,627
4/22/2020 98,968
4/21/2020 92,859



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