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04-25-2020, 07:48 AM

#1351

Lifeisgood

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Originally Posted by Hank Kingsley

Another month of no SILs. My category, no flying for April, 80% on reserve. Offering SILs would have funded early retirements, alleviated upcoming displacements and save a guy from getting furloughed. This is dumber than buying stock back.

THIS!!!
Great post, Hank!

04-25-2020, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Sputnik

If there is no flying why would anyone take an SIL?

That is no reason to not offer them, but realistically how many people would do it?

That is what is happening at American. Pilots are seeing that 72 hours to do nothing is better than 55 hours to do nothing. I suspect that a few will view an ERP (at this point nonexistent here) in the same light.

04-25-2020, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Sputnik

If there is no flying why would anyone take an SIL?

That is no reason to not offer them, but realistically how many people would do it?

I believe that according to DALPA figures, upwards of 40% of pilots are commuters. With the massive drop in flight frequency many are now left with only one flight per day and in some cases are now forced into 2 leg commutes. That makes even a 12 hour long call impossible. Even if you're a line holder, the trips that are left are 1 and 2 days....again, a nightmare scenario for commuters. I dont speak for all commuters, but I'd take an SIL in a heartbeat

STANDARD DISCLAIMER: Yeah, yeah, I know, commuting is a choice

04-25-2020, 08:03 AM

#1354

Sputnik

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Yeah, good point about commuters.

I still just don't think all that many people will take it. But it'd be easy enough to find out

04-25-2020, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by DelDah Capt

Exactly my situation and I’d take a SIL if offered to have no obligation to commute right now.

04-25-2020, 08:37 AM

#1356

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Originally Posted by DelDah Capt

Because of the limited flight schedule to commute, one day of short call became 3 days away from home and 2 nights in a hotel (never called to fly). Kind of a PITA but still don't know if I'd take a SIL for 55 hrs.

04-25-2020, 08:37 AM

#1357

m3113n1a1

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I'd take a SIL too, because I have a side job that I enjoy more than working here!

I'm sure a lot or reserve/guard guys would too.

04-25-2020, 08:40 AM

#1358

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Originally Posted by WhiskeyDelta

Are you talking about the total numbers or just the increase over the last few days? I seriously doubt that increase can be accounted for by only crew members.

It was a tongue in cheek comment. I was basically joking that most of the people in airports are crew members. Bad execution on my part I guess.

04-25-2020, 08:57 AM

#1359

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Originally Posted by DelDah Capt

NYC will go very junior (relatively speaking) if the Florida folks can't get there. Combine with a 7ER pulldown up-gauging to 199 seat jets from 112/143'ish and Atlanta is going to get astonishingly senior.

It is hoped the displacment bid addresses, at least rhetorically, the route network we are going to fly.