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Old 05-17-2020 | 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by gloopy
Pure clickbait.

I'm sure then that you saw the United "memo" that said they only need 5000 out of 25,000 FA's?

Again, out of context clickbait nonsense.



This is a lot less insane, but we stil don't know. I suspect they will announce 2000-2500 furloughs, then adjust the bid before it gets to that point to closer to 1500-2000. As they impliment that "plan" based on extremely limited and rapidly changing data based off a snapshot with guesses thrown in, as reality unfolds the "plan" and the "memo" will be adjusted to reflect that, and actual furloughs could be quite a it less under some realistic scenarios. Or they could overreact now, only to recall many hundreds very quickly (as in well prior to the 18-24 month ROI estimate often cited).

Do something Lieutenant, even if its wrong! That's where they are right now, with a dash of FUD thrown in just to see if they can claw back a little extra on general principle.

No one truly knows how all the variables will shake out. That includes management, and it especially includes anything that comes from a "memo".

That’s a thoughtful and well measured answer. Thanks for that. Similar outlook here at AAY. The picture painted is generally worse than the reality when searching for concessions. Loads all over are starting to go back up... at least domestically.


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Old 05-19-2020 | 12:19 PM
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CFO said today

“Delta is confident that they can avoid involuntary pilot furloughs with temporary and permanent leave programs.”

This was said at some transportation conference today.
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Old 05-19-2020 | 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Aviator147
CFO said today

“Delta is confident that they can avoid involuntary pilot furloughs with temporary and permanent leave programs.”

This was said at some transportation conference today.
and supposedly this will be in the 8k shortly. A buddy of mine sent me the screenshot from their AA Facebook group. Is that where you saw it too?
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Old 05-19-2020 | 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by 1Taco
and supposedly this will be in the 8k shortly. A buddy of mine sent me the screenshot from their AA Facebook group. Is that where you saw it too?
I saw two screenshots. One like you mentioned and also one on an internal FB group that now I can’t find. Does it being in the 8k bear any significance?
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Old 05-19-2020 | 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Aviator147
I saw two screenshots. One like you mentioned and also one on an internal FB group that now I can’t find. Does it being in the 8k bear any significance?
No clue! That’s just what I saw on the screenshot.
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Old 05-19-2020 | 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Aviator147
I saw two screenshots. One like you mentioned and also one on an internal FB group that now I can’t find. Does it being in the 8k bear any significance?
An 8K is reference to the Form 8K , an 8-K is required to announce major events relevant to shareholders. It's filed with the SEC.

More info here:
https://www.investopedia.com/terms/1/8-k.asp
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Old 05-19-2020 | 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Phins2right
An 8K is reference to the Form 8K , an 8-K is required to announce major events relevant to shareholders. It's filed with the SEC.

More info here:
https://www.investopedia.com/terms/1/8-k.asp
I know what an 8k is. I meant that is the statement from the CFO going into the 8k hold any weight in regards to furloughs actually happening or not...
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Old 05-19-2020 | 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Aviator147
I know what an 8k is. I meant that is the statement from the CFO going into the 8k hold any weight in regards to furloughs actually happening or not...
highly doubtful. It was probably only said as a reassurance to stock holders in response to recent articles suggesting airlines will be going bankrupt. Outside of potentially driving the stock price up a few pennies, it likely has no significance at all, as related to actions flight ops will take this fall.
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Old 05-19-2020 | 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Aviator147
I know what an 8k is. I meant that is the statement from the CFO going into the 8k hold any weight in regards to furloughs actually happening or not...
My apologies. Your post seemed to indicate you did not.

Yes, I would think something as significant as furloughing up to 3500 pilots would be something the shareholders would like to know about.
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Old 05-19-2020 | 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by 1Taco
and supposedly this will be in the 8k shortly. A buddy of mine sent me the screenshot from their AA Facebook group. Is that where you saw it too?
I saw the screenshot... DELTA's CFO's words are being misrepresented by the poster! Watch here for yourself...

https://wolferesearch.com/sample/x20...GTIC_DELTA.mp4
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