Not once did I say I was for TA1 and I voted against it. I did post corrections to statements about the TA that were incorrect. I was very against the concession of a additional year in TA2 but voted for it on the strength of the package.
I am not trying to undercut the union. Their success is my success. I Don’t agree with how they are handling business. I recently saw a union rep with DPMA tags still on his bag. The guys running the union now pulled out every stop to undercut the union in the past.
The new group has produced exactly nothing in the 2 ½ years they have been in power. Zero meaningful improvements and little to no progress on a new contract. That contrasts to a constant stream of improvements that took us from a horrid chapter 11 contract in 2006 to a contract everyone on the forums agrees is so good we can work under it indefinitely by 2017. We fired all the TA 2 guys for this group. How is it working for you so far!
One last point. The union sticking with their not my problem stance is actually the very best thing for me. It could end up devastating for junior pilots.

 

This will never be referred to as the pre and post 3/10/2020 world.

Just a year ago...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktbyP6X63tI

 

Fair enough I stand corrected on the TA1 stance. However you are still undercutting our representatives. That does all of us no good. It doesn’t help you unless you are getting some sort of kickback from management.

 

Our union kept preaching time was our friend. Well we just ran out of time. Prepare to work under the same contract with no to very little profit sharing for a few years while inflation eats at our earning power. Retro is all but off the table at this point. We will get a signing bonus and anyone who reitred between now and then has officially been screwed by our union leaders.

 

As someone that will bear the brunt, please don’t speak for me. There has been nothing for the union to speak to until today. Maybe something about yesterday’s blurb in an email about April lines being impacted but so far there has been nothing to discuss. The company knows what the future bookings and reduced revenue look like. If they need relief in certain areas they are welcome to reach out. Until then, nothing has changed. We bid our schedules and fly them until otherwise asked/told to do differently within the confines of the contract. Seems pretty simple. A little good faith on the companies part a few months ago with negotiations may have gone a long way today in what we may or may not be willing to do. They are also welcome to seek relief in the courts if they feel the Union is not working with them. But for now, silence and all, I give my full support to the Union. And if you knew me personally, that is saying a lot.

 

They also said they would deliver a great contract on time.

 

Are you referring to "ON TIME ON TARGET"

 

Sailingfun,

You mean the same company that told the US DOJ that the split of growing US-MX flying was going to be 50/50, then offered us something in the 30's? The company that keeps, repeatedly, violating our scope? The company that broke constructive engagement, which is what got the "no" crowd elected? They need something?

It is management's job to manage the company. ALPA does not need to carry the water. We will probably have pilot(s) with COV-19/SAR2 in a week. This should be handled as an OJI. It would be nice to have a policy, after all, even Spirit has one, right?

The company's repeated noncompliance leads me to doubt their good faith. Our scope language is going to be tested. The association has to be very, very, careful. This isn't 9/11. The company is making plenty of money. There is no "circumstance beyond the company's control" as I read it in the contract.

The union is smart not to speculate in public. In grievances, speaking last is a tactical advantage. Being right is a strategic advantage. If the company violates the contract then there need to be grievances and we need to win those grievances.

Delta controls the fleets of its JV partners. Delta has board seats and likes to talk about their control when discussing capacity allocations and revenue. Yet, the established pattern is for JV partners to aim their fleets at America every time the world economy sneezes.

If the company wishes to make a proposal to protect our pilots, I am sure the association will give it fair consideration. But understand, the company is behind the curve when it comes to cooperation and good faith.

 

Our opener was pure populist theater.

It’s a whole lot easier to play the victim and blame it on management intransigence than to roll up your sleeves, pick a FEW top priorities and aggressively go after them. Bird in the hand, make hay while it’s sunny, etc...

The result was predictable and just as you say.

 

Why have we run out of time? Given the current conditions I’d be happy with our current PWA for the indefinite future. There’s nothing anyone can do about our PS given this media-induced mass hysteria.

Better to stop all negotiations until this hysteria becomes a “WTF were we thinking, World?” moment for this history books.