Originally Posted by Turbo1 (Post 3024490)

Nope. Not there either. But I did make it to the left seat of an MD 88 at 25 years

Originally Posted by Scoop (Post 3024115)

Hank,

Age 65 was indeed a windfall for everyone approaching 60 in the left seat - 5 more years at the top of the food chain when all ahead of you had to retire at 60. Try telling the guys who lived through the B scale and 9-11 and retired at age 60 that age 65 was not a windfall. Just like the B scale was a screw job for all who lived through it.

Call it like it is and don't try to spin it. You can't on one hand claim that age 65 was not a windfall and on the other hand claim the B scale was not a screw job. They both affected Pilots one positively and the other negatively.

I am not saying guys in your demographic did not get screwed but claiming age 65 was not a windfall is too much of a stretch. I think the guys who got screwed the worst were the early 90 furlough guys followed closely by the 9-11 furlough group, but what can we do about it? All demographics have been screwed to varying degrees by the vicissitudes of this career, we are even now seeing the 2 and 3 year Captain group who were going to have the "Dream career" talk about furloughs. Its all part of, dare I say it, wait for it........................................"Living the Dream!" :eek:

Scoop

Originally Posted by BobZ (Post 3024700)

Am i the only one who in spite of it all has enjoyed a career.that never seemed at all like work?

Originally Posted by The Localizer (Post 3024736)

For an airline that was not shy ever to tell us or the whole world how we are the best at everything, number 1 in every market number 1 on wallstreet, bragging about profit sharing... the list goes on. I feel like we are handling this the worst out of any airline. I feel like everyone else has at least has some sort of a plan and we have absolutely no idea what we are doing.

Originally Posted by Hank Kingsley (Post 3024651)

I've never been screwed, just seen the less glamorous side of the industry. Never missed a paycheck, so I'm blessed. Definition of a windfall:

a piece of unexpected good fortune, typically one that involves receiving a large amount of money.
"windfall profits"

Working 60-65 is not in my opinion a windfall, it's not unexpected good fortune. Good fortune would be hired here and making captain to 3 years and bagging greenslips, with a 401k in your own name.

The money compared to contract 2000, not large. I'm working for what I loss in BK. Only reason I"m here. I was fortunate to be hired at the beginning of a wave. Flying past 60 is not unexpected good fortune. Might be semantics, but I wouldn't describe this as a windfall. Bust my balls. How I see it.