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Old 05-27-2020, 05:57 AM
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I actually totally agree with this. As stupid as our sick leave contest at the end of the year.
x2 on the sick leave race. Unbelievable. Even more so is someone in management thought it was a good enough idea to begin with and then run with it.
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Old 05-27-2020, 05:58 AM
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This MOU sounds like a good thing, good job by the MEC on this.

My only criticism is that this and recent MEC memos/briefs just feel like a lot of white noise. I’m glad they reached an agreement on this MOU, but it still feels like they haven’t accomplished much related to the elephant in the room (leaves, early outs, furloughs etc). Completing this MOU now just feels more like a distraction from the bigger issues at hand. I’m still waiting for news/ progress on the bigger issues at hand (early outs, furloughs etc).
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Old 05-27-2020, 06:16 AM
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Originally Posted by beis77 View Post
This MOU sounds like a good thing, good job by the MEC on this.

My only criticism is that this and recent MEC memos/briefs just feel like a lot of white noise. I’m glad they reached an agreement on this MOU, but it still feels like they haven’t accomplished much related to the elephant in the room (leaves, early outs, furloughs etc). Completing this MOU now just feels more like a distraction from the bigger issues at hand. I’m still waiting for news/ progress on the bigger issues at hand (early outs, furloughs etc).
Everything you mention requires the company to come into the room and talk. A buddy sent a copy of what they are saying the company is going to put out for ERP’s. If true it’s almost like they are looking for a fight.
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Old 05-27-2020, 06:19 AM
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Originally Posted by beis77 View Post
This MOU sounds like a good thing, good job by the MEC on this.

My only criticism is that this and recent MEC memos/briefs just feel like a lot of white noise. I’m glad they reached an agreement on this MOU, but it still feels like they haven’t accomplished much related to the elephant in the room (leaves, early outs, furloughs etc). Completing this MOU now just feels more like a distraction from the bigger issues at hand. I’m still waiting for news/ progress on the bigger issues at hand (early outs, furloughs etc).
It means the Kompany and ALPA are actually communicating in some fashion.

edit: crap, sorry just saw 88FO's reply, stupid 240 sec timer
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Old 05-27-2020, 06:45 AM
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x2 on the sick leave race. Unbelievable. Even more so is someone in management thought it was a good enough idea to begin with and then run with it.
AA guy here I have to ask what is the sick leave race?
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Old 05-27-2020, 06:52 AM
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AA guy here I have to ask what is the sick leave race?
I think they are referring to the fact that our sick leave bank resets every year in April/May (can't ever remember exactly). So, surprise surprise! sick leave use spikes just before it resets. And then management acts all butthurt and surprised. And repeat. Every year.
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Old 05-27-2020, 06:58 AM
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Isn't there some bit where the categories with the lowest sick time usage get an extra vacation day or something?
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Old 05-27-2020, 06:59 AM
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AA guy here I have to ask what is the sick leave race?
It could also be there is a process where the categories with low sick leave usage (under some percentage) get extra vacation days for the next year. Usually the categories that get those are the new hire categories (717 , 220 etc) where the pilots are young and don't get sick as much.
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It could also be there is a process where the categories with low sick leave usage (under some percentage) get extra vacation days for the next year. Usually the categories that get those are the new hire categories (717 , 220 etc) where the pilots are young and don't get sick as much.
This is what I was referring to.
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It could also be there is a process where the categories with low sick leave usage (under some percentage) get extra vacation days for the next year. Usually the categories that get those are the new hire categories (717 , 220 etc) where the pilots are young and don't get sick as much.

Gotcha thanks. We just get the mission hackers who have 1000 hours of sick time and show up hacking saying it’s only allergies in January. The one good thing to come from COVID is not having to don the respiratory infection incubator above FL250 anymore.
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