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Old 06-09-2020 | 08:06 AM
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I don’t know, thought we might need a place to talk about doing that pilot ******.
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Old 06-09-2020 | 08:17 AM
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Why? Is anybody actually doing that right now?
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Old 06-09-2020 | 08:37 AM
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So, the TSA numbers have finally broken the 16%-of-last-year number for a couple of days.

Out of boredom (since I'm not currently doing that pilot ***** right now), I plugged in the raw numbers since 4/14 (the low point) and calculated the %-of-last-year; the raw number and % trend are fairly consistent positive in both cases. It's not nearly the steep recovery trend that I'd personally like to see, but it is moving in the right direction.

Looking for something positive, so you can keep your 'it's ONLY 16%' gloom and doom to yourself, thanks.
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Old 06-09-2020 | 08:40 AM
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I’ll have CQ the end of July, right before likely converting to UNA. I’ll do it with the same professionalism as always, but finding the motivation may be more difficult.
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Old 06-09-2020 | 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by jmcharles
I’ll have CQ the end of July, right before likely converting to UNA. I’ll do it with the same professionalism as always, but finding the motivation may be more difficult.
Going UNA likely likely in August myself, my motivation, and my enthusiasm for Delta, has taken a big dump. I understand others when they say they never forget being furloughed (likely outcome from UNA) and how they never forget it.
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Old 06-09-2020 | 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by jmcharles
I’ll have CQ the end of July, right before likely converting to UNA. I’ll do it with the same professionalism as always, but finding the motivation may be more difficult.
Um, why? Do you think our management would balk for even a microsecond at the idea of doing the management equivalent of calling in sick the day before CQ?
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Old 06-09-2020 | 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by clear4approach
I understand others when they say they never forget being furloughed (likely outcome from UNA) and how they never forget it.
Same principle involved with bankruptcy, 8 more years of BK contracts, losing the DB that was accrued etc.

Being furloughed is gut wrenching enough but 10 years of bankruptcy contracts is financially much more damaging than 2 years of furlough. Not minimizing the furlough, just gotta avoid BK, not only at Delta but also AA and UAL due to pattern bargaining
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Old 06-09-2020 | 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Tummy
Um, why? Do you think our management would balk for even a microsecond at the idea of doing the management equivalent of calling in sick the day before CQ?
I see what you’re saying, but...I don’t know. It’s not something I’d likely do. Plus, a little extra dough, ya know?
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Old 06-09-2020 | 11:15 AM
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Same principle involved with bankruptcy, 8 more years of BK contracts, losing the DB that was accrued etc.

Being furloughed is gut wrenching enough but 10 years of bankruptcy contracts is financially much more damaging than 2 years of furlough. Not minimizing the furlough, just gotta avoid BK, not only at Delta but also AA and UAL due to pattern bargaining
certainly being furloughed for 5plus years and coming back to a bankruptcy contract does effect how you look at the company. I learned during that time l or we are just numbers. Company only thinks of us as numbers. I do my part and go to the house. How’s the delta family thing going for us now.
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Old 06-09-2020 | 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by jmcharles
I see what you’re saying, but...I don’t know. It’s not something I’d likely do. Plus, a little extra dough, ya know?
I like the extra dough side of the argument myself. I have always bid reserve on training and vacation months because I've never been senior enough to get a decent pay month. So here are your positives:
1. extra couple of hours pay before any unknown change in status.
2. you stay current and qualified for a bit longer. (not fooling myself into thinking unicorns and rainbows, but you never know the pace of un-UNA-ing)
3. you get to get out of the house for a while. (Ok, VA ave is NOT the vacation hot-spot I'd choose, but it is out of the house)
4. you keep your head up despite the $h7# sandwich this career is currently handing you.

I hope you find the motivation.
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