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Old 07-05-2020, 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Banzai View Post
So I’m not going to a bar in LA where cases are spiking dramatically.
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It’s guys like Drum going to a pub in LA where cases are exploding.
Can we please stick to facts. Of course California and LA have high case counts because they are the biggest state and biggest county by population in the country. What actually matters is cases per capita, and in that sense both California and LA are safer than most the rest of the country.

California is #31 in state cases per capita. California has tested people above the national average per capita. Meanwhile several states below California in case count per capita (Colorado, Kansas, Ohio, Idaho, Missouri) have tested well below the national average. So realistically, California is #36 or so in COVID cases per capita when adjusted for the significant lack of testing in a few states.

LA county is a bit higher than the California average. If LA County were it's own state, it would be #15 (Below Iowa, Nebraska, Mississippi, just to name a few). The same testing discrepancy puts LA County closer to ~#18 or so corrected for low testing states. That would put it right below the national average by population for cases per capita.

In terms of rate, yes cases are increasing in California, but they are also increasing in 37 of 50 states, and holding steady in another 11 (Only 2 states are seeing cases decreasing). As far as the actual rate of cases increasing, that's a little harder to find exact data on, so I'll leave a link to the graphical data. California's cases are increasing at a normal amount. It's states like Florida, South Carolina, and Arizona that are really exploding.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...-us-cases.html
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Old 07-05-2020, 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Banzai View Post
That’s fine. I was just writing my view of the current working environment, being on the road. Then Drum had to post that screed about cowardice and what have you.
So I wanted to let him know who I was.
But beyond that, even as a kid I was never one to do something needlessly foolish just because other kids were saying “are you a chicken? Bok bok bok.”
Mamahidescookie was more deft at pointing out what I was trying to say.
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Old 07-05-2020, 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by iahflyr View Post
Can we please stick to facts. Of course California and LA have high case counts because they are the biggest state and biggest county by population in the country. What actually matters is cases per capita, and in that sense both California and LA are safer than most the rest of the country.

California is #31 in state cases per capita. California has tested people above the national average per capita. Meanwhile several states below California in case count per capita (Colorado, Kansas, Ohio, Idaho, Missouri) have tested well below the national average. So realistically, California is #36 or so in COVID cases per capita when adjusted for the significant lack of testing in a few states.

LA county is a bit higher than the California average. If LA County were it's own state, it would be #15 (Below Iowa, Nebraska, Mississippi, just to name a few). The same testing discrepancy puts LA County closer to ~#18 or so corrected for low testing states. That would put it right below the national average by population for cases per capita.

In terms of rate, yes cases are increasing in California, but they are also increasing in 37 of 50 states, and holding steady in another 11 (Only 2 states are seeing cases decreasing). As far as the actual rate of cases increasing, that's a little harder to find exact data on, so I'll leave a link to the graphical data. California's cases are increasing at a normal amount. It's states like Florida, South Carolina, and Arizona that are really exploding.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...-us-cases.html
Florida has 19+ million population. Look at the per capita there. Not as bad. Also, they are counting serology and PCR together in the positive case column. Death rate continues to fall here. 81% of deaths here are from nursing/hospice/assisted living centers. More nothingburger from FL.

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Old 07-05-2020, 03:06 PM
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I just checked Skynet and the picture of the furlough notice as a comment to PB's post is still there.

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Old 07-05-2020, 04:31 PM
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Old 07-05-2020, 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Drum View Post
Florida has 19+ million population. Look at the per capita there. Not as bad. Also, they are counting serology and PCR together in the positive case column. Death rate continues to fall here. 81% of deaths here are from nursing/hospice/assisted living centers. More nothingburger from FL.

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Old 07-05-2020, 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by DALMD88FO View Post
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Old 07-05-2020, 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Drum View Post
Florida has 19+ million population. Look at the per capita there. Not as bad.
Yes, Florida is #15 in terms of total state cases per capita, putting it right at average for the country for cases per population over the pandemic.

The issue with Florida is the massive spike in recent cases. On Sunday July 5, Florida has 10,059 new cases reported. California had 4,625 cases reported. California has more than twice the population of Florida at 40 million. So Florida is reporting more than 4x as many new cases per population than California each day.
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Old 07-06-2020, 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by iahflyr View Post
Yes, Florida is #15 in terms of total state cases per capita, putting it right at average for the country for cases per population over the pandemic.

The issue with Florida is the massive spike in recent cases. On Sunday July 5, Florida has 10,059 new cases reported. California had 4,625 cases reported. California has more than twice the population of Florida at 40 million. So Florida is reporting more than 4x as many new cases per population than California each day.
What are the hospitalization and death rates doing? If they are continuing to go down, who cares how many cases there are?
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What are the hospitalization and death rates doing?
Just remember that hospitalizations often lag new cases by at least a week. Deaths typically lag new cases by 3-4 weeks. I do think we are trending in the right direction on death rate, but 500+ deaths a day is still way too many!
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