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Gone Flying 07-07-2020 04:23 PM


Originally Posted by LumberJack (Post 3087629)
I used to commute on AA. People would "check-in" from RDU for a flight from ORD-PHL. Neither system is perfect, but I prefer ours. Especially when I'm old and don't want to game the system just to have a chance.

Further, EDV aren't even equals on mainline, that would be an improvement. They go ahead of mainline retirees and parents.

yes, another benefit to their system is that a “through passenger” goes ahead of a originating passenger of the same priority. Odds are if you are starting a trip somewhere you have a place to go if you miss your flight, if you are just connecting somewhere you probably don’t. I’ve used both systems. AAs wins hands down. Plus Jetnet is far better than travel net

all AA WO employees go AHEAD of all AA retirees and parents and at the same priority as Active AA employees

who are you saying it is an improvement for?

LumberJack 07-07-2020 04:27 PM


Originally Posted by Gone Flying (Post 3087637)
yes, another benefit to their system is that a “through passenger” goes ahead of a originating passenger of the same priority. Odds are if you are starting a trip somewhere you have a place to go if you miss your flight, if you are just connecting somewhere you probably don’t. I’ve used both systems. AAs wins hands down. Plus Jetnet is far better than travel net

No, not a through passenger, a working pilot who hadn't flown his last leg back to ORD yet. Happened all the time. It's the gamesmanship that needs to be played in a pure TOC world.

LumberJack 07-07-2020 04:31 PM

TOC also hurts the guys that are flying when the check-in window opens. It really hurts the guys who then miss that flight and need to rebook.

Gone Flying 07-07-2020 04:32 PM


Originally Posted by LumberJack (Post 3087640)
No, not a through passenger, a working pilot who hadn't flown his last leg back to ORD yet. Happened all the time. It's the gamesmanship that needs to be played in a pure TOC world.

are you saying non rev or JS? Non revs can check in 24 hours in advance this determines priority among like travel priorities . Not sure about JS but I think it is similar. They can reserve the JS ahead of time and just walk up any time prior to about 15 out

OOfff 07-07-2020 04:32 PM

I’d love to see the gnashing of teeth and “but my seniority” posts if we went to a TOC system

Gone Flying 07-07-2020 04:36 PM


Originally Posted by LumberJack (Post 3087644)
TOC also hurts the guys that are flying when the check-in window opens. It really hurts the guys who then miss that flight and need to rebook.

you can check in 24 hrs prior. If you are flying at that time at least you know a day out where you stand on the list. Nothing like getting to the airport and watching 8 people check in for your fight in the 1.5 hours before departure and miss a flight... at least their system allows you to better plan ahead

LumberJack 07-07-2020 04:57 PM


Originally Posted by Gone Flying (Post 3087649)
you can check in 24 hrs prior. If you are flying at that time at least you know a day out where you stand on the list. Nothing like getting to the airport and watching 8 people check in for your fight in the 1.5 hours before departure and miss a flight... at least their system allows you to better plan ahead

Sure it sucks, but rarely happens as you get more senior, and even more rarely to the point of getting bumped. The great thing is seniority continues to work even if your plans change (weather, delays, cancelations etc.)

CBreezy 07-07-2020 04:59 PM


Originally Posted by OOfff (Post 3087647)
I’d love to see the gnashing of teeth and “but my seniority” posts if we went to a TOC system

I think most Delta pilots live in this weird bubble where everything is better everywhere else... except when it isn't and they are aghast that anyone would do it differently.

LumberJack 07-07-2020 05:06 PM


Originally Posted by CBreezy (Post 3087663)
I think most Delta pilots live in this weird bubble where everything is better everywhere else... except when it isn't and they are aghast that anyone would do it differently.

We're talking about S3Cs jumping to S3A (skipping S3B) on mainline flights. That's a Delta system changing to a worse Delta system. Trust us, we have no illusions how bad we are at some things. #UALvacation&SWAScopeC2019

cornbeef007 07-07-2020 05:10 PM


Originally Posted by LumberJack (Post 3087635)
Because that's the benefit we all signed up for. EDV employees get the same benefit when they move on.

Where is that referenced in the contract?

I signed up thinking our buddy passes weren't basically worthless....I’ll get over it.


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