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Old 07-02-2020, 02:28 PM
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I am going to put in for the VEOP and I am pleased with the work the MEC did to get this. However, I have *****ed before, having been "cornered" (friendly) by a recent Delta pilot retiree. Okay, so we get 6 S3A days a year but the rest of the time, Endeavor employees AND FAMILY get them year round. I don't think that's right and I did state that to my LEC rep. 30+ years at Delta and the wife and kids of a Endeavor pilot board before me? I hope this gets corrected soon.
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I am going to put in for the VEOP and I am pleased with the work the MEC did to get this. However, I have *****ed before, having been "cornered" (friendly) by a recent Delta pilot retiree. Okay, so we get 6 S3A days a year but the rest of the time, Endeavor employees AND FAMILY get them year round. I don't think that's right and I did state that to my LEC rep. 30+ years at Delta and the wife and kids of a Endeavor pilot board before me? I hope this gets corrected soon.
You are right! They should just give the Endeavor pilots and family members S3 with the occasional S2. Marvelous idea!
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You are right! They should just give the Endeavor pilots and family members S3 with the occasional S2. Marvelous idea!
After this response, you should have left the “1215” off your screen name.....

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I am going to put in for the VEOP and I am pleased with the work the MEC did to get this. However, I have *****ed before, having been "cornered" (friendly) by a recent Delta pilot retiree. Okay, so we get 6 S3A days a year but the rest of the time, Endeavor employees AND FAMILY get them year round. I don't think that's right and I did state that to my LEC rep. 30+ years at Delta and the wife and kids of a Endeavor pilot board before me? I hope this gets corrected soon.
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Old 07-02-2020, 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Cogf16 View Post
I am going to put in for the VEOP and I am pleased with the work the MEC did to get this. However, I have *****ed before, having been "cornered" (friendly) by a recent Delta pilot retiree. Okay, so we get 6 S3A days a year but the rest of the time, Endeavor employees AND FAMILY get them year round. I don't think that's right and I did state that to my LEC rep. 30+ years at Delta and the wife and kids of a Endeavor pilot board before me? I hope this gets corrected soon.
If you’re willing to consider the perspective of a 9E guy, I very much appreciate the S3A priority. It helps me get to work to fly the planes that retirees nonrev on. And it helps me get home.

I certainly respect that you and your family contributed 30 valuable years to mainline, and that’s more than me and my family have contributed to 9E. But your contribution of 30 years dwarfs the contribution of, say, a 10-year mainline employee and their family, so you should go ahead of their S3 passes too. Shouldn’t that also be corrected?

I think there’s value in the contributions of active employees, mainline or regional. Actually, I wouldn’t mind seeing retirees get S3A like 9E. I do respect the decades of contribution to mainline. But that would also make it more difficult for me to get to work, and I would probably need to use the positive space commuter clause more often.
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If you’re willing to consider the perspective of a 9E guy, I very much appreciate the S3A priority. It helps me get to work to fly the planes that retirees nonrev on. And it helps me get home.

I certainly respect that you and your family contributed 30 valuable years to mainline, and that’s more than me and my family have contributed to 9E. But your contribution of 30 years dwarfs the contribution of, say, a 10-year mainline employee and their family, so you should go ahead of their S3 passes too. Shouldn’t that also be corrected?

I think there’s value in the contributions of active employees, mainline or regional. Actually, I wouldn’t mind seeing retirees get S3A like 9E. I do respect the decades of contribution to mainline. But that would also make it more difficult for me to get to work, and I would probably need to use the positive space commuter clause more often.
9E going to work needn't be the same priority as 9E family leisure travel. Problem(s) solved.
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9E going to work needn't be the same priority as 9E family leisure travel. Problem(s) solved.
but DL family and leisure travel is the same as DL going to work...
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Delta pilots are back to complaining about standby priority.


the world is returning to normal. Nature is healing. We are the virus.


when we hit the point where someone says pilots deserve higher priority than other employee groups, we will also hit 2m passengers/day
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Delta pilots are back to complaining about standby priority.


the world is returning to normal. Nature is healing. We are the virus.


when we hit the point where someone says pilots deserve higher priority than other employee groups, we will also hit 2m passengers/day
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Old 07-03-2020, 05:47 AM
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9E going to work needn't be the same priority as 9E family leisure travel. Problem(s) solved.
Please explain why 9E family’s S3A are a problem, when S3 of a mainline employee’s family/children nonrevving for leisure isn’t a problem? If time of employment at Delta is the measuring stick, why is the disgruntlement only about 9E S3As and not junior mainline S3s?

Let me be clear about what I’m asking. I am not asking why you think 9E family shouldn’t go ahead of mainline retirees. I’m asking, based on the reasoning provided, why when this issue comes up, the attention is only on 9E S3A and not also the S3 of mainline families with less time of service to Delta.

A retiree is far more likely to be bumped by a mainline employee’s family than a 9E employee’s family (for size comparison, 9E only has 2,000 pilots). So why is all the focus in these arguments on 9E families, and none on mainline families? I don’t understand the reasoning.
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