Argue Masks / CDC / Politics Here!!!!
09-05-2020, 06:11 PM
#821
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A) If your wife needs lawyers to review her stuff before she publishes it, then that should tell you everything you need to know.
B) Save us all the trouble of Googling it and give her name. I will disseminate that information
C) Damn straight I'll back out. I'll ferry information from my family, who are technical experts despite your apparent 'issues' against epis, but I'm not dragging them into this, especially on a public forum. Do whatever you want, it's America. If you think masks don't work and it's all an overblown hoax and you throw your wife's credentials around to support it, good luck. To you and everyone who follows you. I hope you're not wrong. Explain to me now why Europe is so much better off than us.
B) Save us all the trouble of Googling it and give her name. I will disseminate that information
C) Damn straight I'll back out. I'll ferry information from my family, who are technical experts despite your apparent 'issues' against epis, but I'm not dragging them into this, especially on a public forum. Do whatever you want, it's America. If you think masks don't work and it's all an overblown hoax and you throw your wife's credentials around to support it, good luck. To you and everyone who follows you. I hope you're not wrong. Explain to me now why Europe is so much better off than us.
Technical experts? In what trolling? I'm about 110% certain you don't know anyone in the field my friend.
You're a liar and a poser.
09-05-2020, 06:23 PM
#822
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Joined APC: May 2015
Position: Power top
Posts: 2,959
It's easy, PM me. I'll give you my wife's cell number, your fiancee and my wife the MD can talk about what is going on, maybe your fiancee will learn something from a seasoned medical professional. You see that is the problem. The real doctors are telling us what we need to know, but unfortunately the hacks, the epidemiologists, and public health people are grinding an agenda. That hurts everyone dude. If you r fiancee and MIL were self respecting health professionals they would understand that "do no harm" is more than just some words. Oh wait, they are not doctors, so they have no ethics or morals. Just to who pays them.
Technical experts? In what trolling? I'm about 110% certain you don't know anyone in the field my friend.
You're a liar and a poser.
Technical experts? In what trolling? I'm about 110% certain you don't know anyone in the field my friend.
You're a liar and a poser.
09-05-2020, 06:27 PM
#823
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I will take a break for a bit. Doctors orders. Dorfman or whatever is a poser. Had to call him out.
Have a good night and take it easy on that stuff man, it will rot your brain.
09-05-2020, 06:33 PM
#824
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Joined APC: Jan 2018
Posts: 644
It's easy, PM me. I'll give you my wife's cell number, your fiancee and my wife the MD can talk about what is going on, maybe your fiancee will learn something from a seasoned medical professional. You see that is the problem. The real doctors are telling us what we need to know, but unfortunately the hacks, the epidemiologists, and public health people are grinding an agenda. That hurts everyone dude. If you r fiancee and MIL were self respecting health professionals they would understand that "do no harm" is more than just some words. Oh wait, they are not doctors, so they have no ethics or morals. Just to who pays them.
Technical experts? In what trolling? I'm about 110% certain you don't know anyone in the field my friend.
You're a liar and a poser.
Technical experts? In what trolling? I'm about 110% certain you don't know anyone in the field my friend.
You're a liar and a poser.
I'll be honest, I'd love to believe what you believe. Life would be so much simpler, an end would be in sight, we could all go back to normal, but the numbers just aren't there. The virus really does exist, it really is more lethal than the flu, and the public health measures are warranted. If they weren't, my fiance would be the first to tell me because it kinda affects my career dearly, which affects both of us, dearly. The facts are the facts. 1500 people who don't have COVID is an extremenly small sample size compared to what they use. Then they draw empirical conclusions about how the virus spreads using mostly SAS math models, using biostat equations that I have a hard time wrapping my head around, and I have an engineering degree. They aren't serving an agenda and even insinuating that they are makes you far less reputable in my eyes. They follow the data and are quick to say when they don't have enough, something is inconclusive, or anything else on the spectrum of certainty. If there's a loose thread in anything they publish, other professionals literally boost their reputation by finding flaws in other's, so it's picked apart to the point that just serving some giant political agenda is impossible, but apparently if you're far enough removed you can use that 'theory' to discredit a professional institution to push your own beliefs.
09-05-2020, 06:36 PM
#825
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Position: Power top
Posts: 2,959
Hi Hank. No thank you. I don't drink and I don't do drugs. However I appreciate the thought.
I will take a break for a bit. Doctors orders. Dorfman or whatever is a poser. Had to call him out.
Have a good night and take it easy on that stuff man, it will rot your brain.
I will take a break for a bit. Doctors orders. Dorfman or whatever is a poser. Had to call him out.
Have a good night and take it easy on that stuff man, it will rot your brain.
09-05-2020, 06:45 PM
#826
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Joined APC: Aug 2016
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Posts: 7,000
Think I need to pop some more popcorn.
09-05-2020, 06:54 PM
#827
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Joined APC: Apr 2018
Posts: 3,200
I'm gonna have to throw mine out. A lot of blustering, only 1 left standng, willing to put up or shut up on an anonymous forum. Might have been inormative. Oh well.
In all honesty, Phins gets beat up on the forum, but at least he was willing to put up.
I gotta at least respect that.
In all honesty, Phins gets beat up on the forum, but at least he was willing to put up.
I gotta at least respect that.
09-05-2020, 06:54 PM
#828
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Joined APC: Mar 2013
Position: Doggie Style
Posts: 586
Yeah I'm not sharing personal info about my fiance with anyone I don't know, online. If your wife has a public, online presence that lawyers apparently review, then feel free to share that, but I'm honestly having a hard time believing you're not full of it. Lie, lie, lie, counter-accuse, shift the blame. It's the generic Machiavellian playbook. If you accuse me first I'm somehow less likely to believe you could possibly be guilty of the thing you accused me of. Same reason China accused the US of releasing COVID.
I'll be honest, I'd love to believe what you believe. Life would be so much simpler, an end would be in sight, we could all go back to normal, but the numbers just aren't there. The virus really does exist, it really is more lethal than the flu, and the public health measures are warranted. If they weren't, my fiance would be the first to tell me because it kinda affects my career dearly, which affects both of us, dearly. The facts are the facts. 1500 people who don't have COVID is an extremenly small sample size compared to what they use. Then they draw empirical conclusions about how the virus spreads using mostly SAS math models, using biostat equations that I have a hard time wrapping my head around, and I have an engineering degree. They aren't serving an agenda and even insinuating that they are makes you far less reputable in my eyes. They follow the data and are quick to say when they don't have enough, something is inconclusive, or anything else on the spectrum of certainty. If there's a loose thread in anything they publish, other professionals literally boost their reputation by finding flaws in other's, so it's picked apart to the point that just serving some giant political agenda is impossible, but apparently if you're far enough removed you can use that 'theory' to discredit a professional institution to push your own beliefs.
I'll be honest, I'd love to believe what you believe. Life would be so much simpler, an end would be in sight, we could all go back to normal, but the numbers just aren't there. The virus really does exist, it really is more lethal than the flu, and the public health measures are warranted. If they weren't, my fiance would be the first to tell me because it kinda affects my career dearly, which affects both of us, dearly. The facts are the facts. 1500 people who don't have COVID is an extremenly small sample size compared to what they use. Then they draw empirical conclusions about how the virus spreads using mostly SAS math models, using biostat equations that I have a hard time wrapping my head around, and I have an engineering degree. They aren't serving an agenda and even insinuating that they are makes you far less reputable in my eyes. They follow the data and are quick to say when they don't have enough, something is inconclusive, or anything else on the spectrum of certainty. If there's a loose thread in anything they publish, other professionals literally boost their reputation by finding flaws in other's, so it's picked apart to the point that just serving some giant political agenda is impossible, but apparently if you're far enough removed you can use that 'theory' to discredit a professional institution to push your own beliefs.
09-05-2020, 06:57 PM
#829
Bracing for Fallacies
Joined APC: Jul 2007
Position: In favor of good things, not in favor of bad things
Posts: 3,543
Yeah I'm not sharing personal info about my fiance with anyone I don't know, online. If your wife has a public, online presence that lawyers apparently review, then feel free to share that, but I'm honestly having a hard time believing you're not full of it. Lie, lie, lie, counter-accuse, shift the blame. It's the generic Machiavellian playbook. If you accuse me first I'm somehow less likely to believe you could possibly be guilty of the thing you accused me of. Same reason China accused the US of releasing COVID.
I'll be honest, I'd love to believe what you believe. Life would be so much simpler, an end would be in sight, we could all go back to normal, but the numbers just aren't there. The virus really does exist, it really is more lethal than the flu, and the public health measures are warranted. If they weren't, my fiance would be the first to tell me because it kinda affects my career dearly, which affects both of us, dearly. The facts are the facts. 1500 people who don't have COVID is an extremenly small sample size compared to what they use. Then they draw empirical conclusions about how the virus spreads using mostly SAS math models, using biostat equations that I have a hard time wrapping my head around, and I have an engineering degree. They aren't serving an agenda and even insinuating that they are makes you far less reputable in my eyes. They follow the data and are quick to say when they don't have enough, something is inconclusive, or anything else on the spectrum of certainty. If there's a loose thread in anything they publish, other professionals literally boost their reputation by finding flaws in other's, so it's picked apart to the point that just serving some giant political agenda is impossible, but apparently if you're far enough removed you can use that 'theory' to discredit a professional institution to push your own beliefs.
I'll be honest, I'd love to believe what you believe. Life would be so much simpler, an end would be in sight, we could all go back to normal, but the numbers just aren't there. The virus really does exist, it really is more lethal than the flu, and the public health measures are warranted. If they weren't, my fiance would be the first to tell me because it kinda affects my career dearly, which affects both of us, dearly. The facts are the facts. 1500 people who don't have COVID is an extremenly small sample size compared to what they use. Then they draw empirical conclusions about how the virus spreads using mostly SAS math models, using biostat equations that I have a hard time wrapping my head around, and I have an engineering degree. They aren't serving an agenda and even insinuating that they are makes you far less reputable in my eyes. They follow the data and are quick to say when they don't have enough, something is inconclusive, or anything else on the spectrum of certainty. If there's a loose thread in anything they publish, other professionals literally boost their reputation by finding flaws in other's, so it's picked apart to the point that just serving some giant political agenda is impossible, but apparently if you're far enough removed you can use that 'theory' to discredit a professional institution to push your own beliefs.
I cant post a specific citation right now, got that from Ben Shapiro's podcast.
I say that in seriousness. Not trying to pick fights.
09-05-2020, 07:01 PM
#830
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