Nvrgofullretard

I guess it depends on your version of “punished” is. The reality is that the black community is still feeling the negative impact of no generational wealth. So if they are still “punished” for the sins of their fathers being born black in America, maybe whites can pony up a little bit too. Maybe just stay out of their way as they hash it out with Uncle Sam could be the best thing you can give them.

Jaww

You're a gem. You wanted a rational discussion, so much for that. Tell me oh perfect one, have you ever said anything inappropriate when you thought only your buddy was listening. Glass houses man. I know I have, a lot.

Jaww

If I hear the new buzz phrase generational wealth one more time I am going to scream. So based solely on my skin, I must be loaded. I couldn’t possibly have joined the military with nothing and risen to success, just like some of my black friends who did the same. This. Is. So. Absurd. Stop making outdated excuses for modern problems. I will not feel guilty for being successful and having accumulated wealth. Go bug the Obamas, somehow they got rich while in the White House.

Buck Rogers

Does the BLM pin mean you condone looting, violence, and 5 finger reparations? Spokesmen for BLM are on record defending these actions

NORMALOPS

2 Acres and Mule. Remember that?
​​Black Wall Street, Okahoma. Remember that?
Jim Crow, Remember that? Hope I'm helping your memory recollection. Sir, there were many ethnic groups coming to the USA after 1865. None suffered as much as former Slaves, and their descendants. EXCEPT NATIVE AMERICANS, they suffered even more. Is your memory getting better. I am doing my part to help fix the problems, are you. Or are you perpetuating the iniquities of the past.

Nvrgofullretard

of course you don’t, but stuffing your head in the sand and pretending it doesn’t exist is ridiculous at best, and selective moral discretion at worst. Maybe just acknowledging their struggle is all they want. If wearing a pin makes people feel that other people care about them, then wtf is the issue.no one is asking you to feel guilty, they just want you to admit it’s true. Which anyone with half a brain and the ability to research slavery Jim Crow and segregation can figure out. I don’t think rational people are after your money dude, that could be fox spraying propaganda and fear all over your brain. CNN does it too. Both are terrible for our nation going forawRd.

oh and I love how no one says anything about trump bad mouthing our generals. At least you aren’t defending him on this one. Makes me hope 😂

Buck Rogers

I want Delta to authorize a pin that says ....STOP BKB



It would make an most excellent "discussion" starter about how to stop Blacks Killing Blacks. We could engage other pilots , FA's, and even make a little blurb to the pax during the welcome aboard PA, and the Sky Miles card, and the safety cleaning protocols. Kinda suggest they shout at their social distanced seat mate on what could be do to stop the 7,700 Black on Black murders. We all know that systemic racism practiced by Whitey is the culprit....(Thought I'd save some of you keystrokes)

I think everybody could get behind this new mantra..... STOP BKB

TED74

That's my point. Wearing the pin doesn't mean I condone any of that any more than wearing a MAGA hat means the wearer condones sexual assault (or hangs out with people who might be impressed by "locker room talk" supportive of sexual assault). I'm mature enough to understand the complexities of issues "embraced" by "the left" and "the right." I also understand that one's opinions on abortion, gun rights, religious liberties, the federal deficit, states rights, military base names, the EPA, taxes, health care, school vouchers, school loans, racism, foreign policy, prayer, and the ALV needn't correlate with national political party platforms. Similarly, I can voluntarily wear a pin with the words BLACK LIVES MATTER and simultaneously reject looting and violence. Trump is on record saying all sorts of ridiculous things, but I get that his supporters can still reject much of his silliness.

Plenty of folks choose to live their lives (or at least debate) without nuance. Have at it if that's your gig.

I lean pretty far left and I accept that. I also listen to my coworkers with different perspectives and respect their choices. I'm often intrigued to hear the bases for their different beliefs. More than once, I've been told by someone self-described as conservative "I actually agree with you, but that's not what the left thinks." Ok....(?) I hold beliefs that many of my left-leaning friends and family also hold, and we would all say we ARE the left. So who gets to define it? It's easier to battle the caricature of the "other side" than to discuss with and learn from someone different. I'll take an hour of respectful discussion over listening to 5 minutes of Hannity or Madow any day. In my limited time on earth, I've begun to figure out not that there are right and wrong sides to every issue, but that both sides usually are right.

I'm not a spokesman for BLM, and their spokesmen are not spokesmen for me. I am a spokesman for me. The pin let's you know I'm willing to share my thoughts, and hear yours on black lives. I'd rather sit on your jumpseat and hear your thoughts above 10k than be kicked back to economy uncomfort. The extremes of any movement would prefer you do the latter to let the fear and anger fester. Who gains from us chatting respectfully? I like to think we both do.

Jaww

Sir, I am not guilty of those inequities. People in the past are. Just stop it.

Buck Rogers

Ted. I understand what you are saying, unfortunately life isn't that simple. The vast majority see that MAGA hat and assume you support Trump or the BLM pin and assume you support anarchy. That is life as we know it.

The question is and has been asked....why pizz off half of your patrons? There will not be any meaningful dialogue taking place on the airplane or with the FA's. The is no nuance or explaining....you're just gonna irritate half the population. If Ed wants to institute training for the employees, that's his prerogative. But to use a publicly traded company to virtue signal is wrong, regardless if I support the cause or not.

When I drive down the street and see a Trump sign, I think of something. Likewise if I see a Biden sign. Saw a car yesterday on my street that still had a BETO bumper sticker. No communication ensued, but thoughts were had.

I still believe that it borders on "hostile workplace environment" for either the hat or the pin. Why? Because the hat wearers support Trump and the pin wearers support Biden. So in essence you are allowing political "free speech" for only one candidate.

Folks, please spare me the esoteric philosophical nuance of one is a political party and the other is a human rights issue. Common sense would recognize that they are inextricably linked.