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#961
internet trolled? By who? You?
talk is cheap. So is imagining you are somebody else for a day.
When you are over a decade and 7 figures plus into personal commitments providing things like reentry housing and recidivism prevention programs, employment, and senior and disabled housing you can lecture me on making a difference.
What is clear is that your outrage over historic racial inequity pales in comparison to your outrage over someone suggesting you make an even modest personal commitment to rectify those inequities.
talk is cheap. So is imagining you are somebody else for a day.
When you are over a decade and 7 figures plus into personal commitments providing things like reentry housing and recidivism prevention programs, employment, and senior and disabled housing you can lecture me on making a difference.
What is clear is that your outrage over historic racial inequity pales in comparison to your outrage over someone suggesting you make an even modest personal commitment to rectify those inequities.
#962
Bracing for Fallacies
Joined APC: Jul 2007
Position: In favor of good things, not in favor of bad things
Posts: 3,543
Step one is admitting there is a problem.
After George Floyd everyone of all political stripes was on board with condemning the particular act and also discussing policing. Breona Taylor led to Rand Paul introucing a bill on no knock raids. There is a ton of support for checking police power while still maintaining a robust police force.
That has given way to massive riots, killings, mobs accosting and sometimes harming completely innocent people as they go about their business.... and now we get this what about-ism. Really?!
No. This is bad for society, bad for the airline industry, and bad for our jobs and safety.
Get step one accomplished. Call out the bad mob behavior. Dont sweep it under the rug. Don't what-about it. Enough is enough. Thats not a "hardcore Republican" position.
After George Floyd everyone of all political stripes was on board with condemning the particular act and also discussing policing. Breona Taylor led to Rand Paul introucing a bill on no knock raids. There is a ton of support for checking police power while still maintaining a robust police force.
That has given way to massive riots, killings, mobs accosting and sometimes harming completely innocent people as they go about their business.... and now we get this what about-ism. Really?!
No. This is bad for society, bad for the airline industry, and bad for our jobs and safety.
Get step one accomplished. Call out the bad mob behavior. Dont sweep it under the rug. Don't what-about it. Enough is enough. Thats not a "hardcore Republican" position.
#963
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2006
Posts: 762
no bob, you asked me to co sign a loan with someone I don’t know, at the behest of a fictitious Internet personality, and then are shocked I’m reluctant to take you up on it. You knew I would say **** no, (like any normal sane person would do) and then try to flip this into moral high ground. Your tactics are pathetic but your belief that I might have taken you up on it is the insane part.
#964
Line Holder
Joined APC: May 2010
Posts: 62
Thank you for backing away from the "my way or the highway" attitude. That is the exclusive domain of the "left". The less woke are definitely the most tolerant and open minded.
Generational wealth is a very real concept. I am a multimillionaire who benefited greatly from generational wealth. My parents contributed future millions into my trust fund beginning when I was born. Those contributions consisted of belief and work ethic. I didn't know I grew up poor, because we didn't compare our material possessions to the neighbors. I just figured Goodwill was the same as any other clothing store. On my 18th birthday I was given full control of my millions. I left home with $0, a work ethic and a belief that I could accomplish anything. You will find this is very common among millionaires. Money isn't the problem, behavior and attitudes toward money are what create poverty.
Teaching the black community they are disadvantaged is the biggest example of systemic racism in existence. We have kept an entire community oppressed simply by telling them they are oppressed. Start teaching wealthy attitudes toward work and money and within a generation the problem will be well on it's way to resolution
Generational wealth is a very real concept. I am a multimillionaire who benefited greatly from generational wealth. My parents contributed future millions into my trust fund beginning when I was born. Those contributions consisted of belief and work ethic. I didn't know I grew up poor, because we didn't compare our material possessions to the neighbors. I just figured Goodwill was the same as any other clothing store. On my 18th birthday I was given full control of my millions. I left home with $0, a work ethic and a belief that I could accomplish anything. You will find this is very common among millionaires. Money isn't the problem, behavior and attitudes toward money are what create poverty.
Teaching the black community they are disadvantaged is the biggest example of systemic racism in existence. We have kept an entire community oppressed simply by telling them they are oppressed. Start teaching wealthy attitudes toward work and money and within a generation the problem will be well on it's way to resolution
#965
Thank you for backing away from the "my way or the highway" attitude. That is the exclusive domain of the "left". The less woke are definitely the most tolerant and open minded.
Generational wealth is a very real concept. I am a multimillionaire who benefited greatly from generational wealth. My parents contributed future millions into my trust fund beginning when I was born. Those contributions consisted of belief and work ethic. I didn't know I grew up poor, because we didn't compare our material possessions to the neighbors. I just figured Goodwill was the same as any other clothing store. On my 18th birthday I was given full control of my millions. I left home with $0, a work ethic and a belief that I could accomplish anything. You will find this is very common among millionaires. Money isn't the problem, behavior and attitudes toward money are what create poverty.
Teaching the black community they are disadvantaged is the biggest example of systemic racism in existence. We have kept an entire community oppressed simply by telling them they are oppressed. Start teaching wealthy attitudes toward work and money and within a generation the problem will be well on it's way to resolution
Generational wealth is a very real concept. I am a multimillionaire who benefited greatly from generational wealth. My parents contributed future millions into my trust fund beginning when I was born. Those contributions consisted of belief and work ethic. I didn't know I grew up poor, because we didn't compare our material possessions to the neighbors. I just figured Goodwill was the same as any other clothing store. On my 18th birthday I was given full control of my millions. I left home with $0, a work ethic and a belief that I could accomplish anything. You will find this is very common among millionaires. Money isn't the problem, behavior and attitudes toward money are what create poverty.
Teaching the black community they are disadvantaged is the biggest example of systemic racism in existence. We have kept an entire community oppressed simply by telling them they are oppressed. Start teaching wealthy attitudes toward work and money and within a generation the problem will be well on it's way to resolution
#966
Ted. I understand what you are saying, unfortunately life isn't that simple. The vast majority see that MAGA hat and assume you support Trump or the BLM pin and assume you support anarchy. That is life as we know it.
The question is and has been asked....why pizz off half of your patrons? There will not be any meaningful dialogue taking place on the airplane or with the FA's. The is no nuance or explaining....you're just gonna irritate half the population. If Ed wants to institute training for the employees, that's his prerogative. But to use a publicly traded company to virtue signal is wrong, regardless if I support the cause or not.
When I drive down the street and see a Trump sign, I think of something. Likewise if I see a Biden sign. Saw a car yesterday on my street that still had a BETO bumper sticker. No communication ensued, but thoughts were had.
I still believe that it borders on "hostile workplace environment" for either the hat or the pin. Why? Because the hat wearers support Trump and the pin wearers support Biden. So in essence you are allowing political "free speech" for only one candidate.
Folks, please spare me the esoteric philosophical nuance of one is a political party and the other is a human rights issue. Common sense would recognize that they are inextricably linked.
The question is and has been asked....why pizz off half of your patrons? There will not be any meaningful dialogue taking place on the airplane or with the FA's. The is no nuance or explaining....you're just gonna irritate half the population. If Ed wants to institute training for the employees, that's his prerogative. But to use a publicly traded company to virtue signal is wrong, regardless if I support the cause or not.
When I drive down the street and see a Trump sign, I think of something. Likewise if I see a Biden sign. Saw a car yesterday on my street that still had a BETO bumper sticker. No communication ensued, but thoughts were had.
I still believe that it borders on "hostile workplace environment" for either the hat or the pin. Why? Because the hat wearers support Trump and the pin wearers support Biden. So in essence you are allowing political "free speech" for only one candidate.
Folks, please spare me the esoteric philosophical nuance of one is a political party and the other is a human rights issue. Common sense would recognize that they are inextricably linked.
#967
Line Holder
Joined APC: Mar 2019
Posts: 58
Step one is admitting there is a problem.
After George Floyd everyone of all political stripes was on board with condemning the particular act and also discussing policing. Breona Taylor led to Rand Paul introucing a bill on no knock raids. There is a ton of support for checking police power while still maintaining a robust police force..
After George Floyd everyone of all political stripes was on board with condemning the particular act and also discussing policing. Breona Taylor led to Rand Paul introucing a bill on no knock raids. There is a ton of support for checking police power while still maintaining a robust police force..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XK2HTrSOo-E
#968
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2018
Posts: 3,200
There's another positive out of all this mess as seen with this new police training video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XK2HTrSOo-E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XK2HTrSOo-E
The left can be happy: 3 positive take aways from the video. 1. The new policy de-escalated the situation. 2. Provided an avenue for the Black people to receive reparations from the white people, who foment systemic racism, and 3. nobody got hurt!
Good all the way around. Thanks for the laugh
#969
Step one is admitting there is a problem.
After George Floyd everyone of all political stripes was on board with condemning the particular act and also discussing policing. Breona Taylor led to Rand Paul introucing a bill on no knock raids. There is a ton of support for checking police power while still maintaining a robust police force.
That has given way to massive riots, killings, mobs accosting and sometimes harming completely innocent people as they go about their business.... and now we get this what about-ism. Really?!
No. This is bad for society, bad for the airline industry, and bad for our jobs and safety.
Get step one accomplished. Call out the bad mob behavior. Dont sweep it under the rug. Don't what-about it. Enough is enough. Thats not a "hardcore Republican" position.
After George Floyd everyone of all political stripes was on board with condemning the particular act and also discussing policing. Breona Taylor led to Rand Paul introucing a bill on no knock raids. There is a ton of support for checking police power while still maintaining a robust police force.
That has given way to massive riots, killings, mobs accosting and sometimes harming completely innocent people as they go about their business.... and now we get this what about-ism. Really?!
No. This is bad for society, bad for the airline industry, and bad for our jobs and safety.
Get step one accomplished. Call out the bad mob behavior. Dont sweep it under the rug. Don't what-about it. Enough is enough. Thats not a "hardcore Republican" position.
#970
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2006
Posts: 762
I think step one is acknowledging the systemic disadvantages. No one likes to be called privileged and being left out of the "matters" crowd. However, that gets peoples attention. Not standing for the anthem and now violence. Does society hear the pleas? If not, it will only escalate. I don't condone violence and the other means are not as offensive as some would have you believe. Peaceful protest is protected speech. Kneeling for the anthem is not something I would do but I have never had cause to protest. Perhaps a raised clenched fist is more palatable, but I doubt it. I'll bet that would be interpreted as a call to violence and not a show of unity and strength. The ninth amendment applies to all and provides the freedom to do whatever is not specifically prohibited.
I, personally, do not care if players kneel or raise a fist or whatever. However, if the fans care and decide they won’t watch or buy tickets as long as the players do that, then there is nothing wrong with teams prohibiting it, as the ninth amendment only applies as a limitation on government.
Your right to express yourself is not an obligation on my part.
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