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Old 08-24-2020, 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by PilotWombat View Post
For anyone who cares, by the numbers management threw out last month, Delta currently has enough cash on hand to operate for 17 months. Being generous, keeping those 1941 pilots on UNA status costs roughly $1M a day. The difference between furloughing and not is about 20 days.

This does not include any sort of revenue increase or voluntary cost saving measures that could otherwise be implemented.

Let's be clear, Delta does not have to furlough. If they truly believed in their own values, they would have tried other measures before jumping straight to the nuclear option, or simply bit the bullet and tried keeping us on staff until things really get dire, working towards a future where things never get that far.

I, more than anything, am disappointed to have my cynicism confirmed.
I think they probably have desired outcomes. And they are doing their best to achieve those outcomes. They aren’t going to keep unused pilots on the books unless they have to or unless it serves their desired outcomes.
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Old 08-24-2020, 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by PilotWombat View Post
For anyone who cares, by the numbers management threw out last month, Delta currently has enough cash on hand to operate for 17 months. Being generous, keeping those 1941 pilots on UNA status costs roughly $1M a day. The difference between furloughing and not is about 20 days.

This does not include any sort of revenue increase or voluntary cost saving measures that could otherwise be implemented.

Let's be clear, Delta does not have to furlough. If they truly believed in their own values, they would have tried other measures before jumping straight to the nuclear option, or simply biting the bullet and keeping us on staff until things really got dire.

I, more than anything, am disappointed to have my cynicism confirmed.

This isn’t over and I implore anyone throwing in the towel to cease and desist.
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Old 08-24-2020, 02:04 PM
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This isn’t over and I implore anyone throwing in the towel to cease and desist.

Exactly. We expected this to happen. There is still time...the fat lady hasn’t sung yet


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Old 08-24-2020, 02:06 PM
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Exactly. We expected this to happen. There is still time...the fat lady hasn’t sung yet


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They're following such a predictable playbook (predicted clearly by you and others) it's almost laughable.
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Old 08-24-2020, 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by WhiskeyDelta View Post
This isn’t over and I implore anyone throwing in the towel to cease and desist.

"Over?! Did you say over? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the German's bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no! And it ain't over now! Cause when the going gets tough...The tough get goin'. Who's with me?"
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Originally Posted by m3113n1a1 View Post
They're following such a predictable playbook (predicted clearly by you and others) it's almost laughable.
When JL's email Friday had no FUD in it I figured we were due for the big one.
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Old 08-24-2020, 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by 4fans View Post
I think they probably have desired outcomes. And they are doing their best to achieve those outcomes. They aren’t going to keep unused pilots on the books unless they have to or unless it serves their desired outcomes.
If by desired outcomes you mean that RG or JL can interview for corporate ladder climbing and crow about “brilliantly achieving savings (concessions from pilots) during the most dire of times,” then you’re correct. The “desired outcomes” will be promotions, and they’re clearly focused on the goal.
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Originally Posted by Bergman View Post
"Over?! Did you say over? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the German's bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no! And it ain't over now! Cause when the going gets tough...The tough get goin'. Who's with me?"

Haha that’s a classic. But how prophetic your quote is regarding the number 1941...
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Old 08-24-2020, 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by PilotWombat View Post
For anyone who cares, by the numbers management threw out last month, Delta currently has enough cash on hand to operate for 17 months. Being generous, keeping those 1941 pilots on UNA status costs roughly $1M a day. The difference between furloughing and not is about 20 days.

This does not include any sort of revenue increase or voluntary cost saving measures that could otherwise be implemented.

Let's be clear, Delta does not have to furlough. If they truly believed in their own values, they would have tried other measures before jumping straight to the nuclear option, or simply bit the bullet and tried keeping us on staff until things really get dire, working towards a future where things never get that far.

I, more than anything, am disappointed to have my cynicism confirmed.
Delta is not running a charity. If they don't need those pilots, they will furlough them.
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Old 08-24-2020, 02:27 PM
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Delta is not running a charity
Southwest is?
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