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Old 12-26-2020, 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Denny Crane View Post
Uhhhhhh, our payrates ARE the same as pre-Covid. Hourly rates have not changed. You talking about the TLV change?

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I think he got bumped back in pay by being displaced in the MOAD.
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Old 12-26-2020, 07:14 PM
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Top Men are working on it. TOP. MEN.

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I don’t think they are and that’s the problem. Seeing lots of issues across all departments. I’m guessing that with the early retirement packages that were offered, most of the “Top Men” in various departments are no longer employed. I think that with this happening to key people across so many departments, the talent drain was more than could be absorbed in a short time frame.


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Old 12-27-2020, 04:38 AM
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I think there are a lot more NQ/NQAT than we realize. Combine that with UNAs and we have a huge number of pilots sitting on the sidelines right now.
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Originally Posted by StartngOvr View Post
I don’t think they are and that’s the problem. Seeing lots of issues across all departments. I’m guessing that with the early retirement packages that were offered, most of the “Top Men” in various departments are no longer employed. I think that with this happening to key people across so many departments, the talent drain was more than could be absorbed in a short time frame.


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We tend to be pilot centric. This post is very accurate. Many of the best people across all divisions at Delta have left.
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Old 12-27-2020, 05:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Denny Crane View Post
Uhhhhhh, our payrates ARE the same as pre-Covid. Hourly rates have not changed. You talking about the TLV change?

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guess I was not real clear. My displacement caused a significant pay cut to me personally.
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Old 12-27-2020, 06:50 AM
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I think there are a lot more NQ/NQAT than we realize. Combine that with UNAs and we have a huge number of pilots sitting on the sidelines right now.
No more UNA...the remaining UNAcorns (those hired 11 Sept 2017 and earlier) all got assigned categories in the Dec AE.

1,713 affected pilots are the ones hired 25 Sept and later.
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Old 12-27-2020, 08:29 AM
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guess I was not real clear. My displacement caused a significant pay cut to me personally.

Don’t forget the junior pilots that got their seats back while you get a lump of coal because you have no reinstatement rights!
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Old 12-27-2020, 10:06 AM
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Don’t forget the junior pilots that got their seats back while you get a lump of coal because you have no reinstatement rights!
Eh. Not trying to complain. Others got it way worse. My point was just I’m not at all motivated to work these days at less pay. Add crappy layovers, no matter the location they all seem to sux right now, mask nazi FAs turning in co workers, mask nazi passengers turning in everyone, non compliant passengers making everyone’s life difficult..... I’d just rather stay home.
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Old 12-27-2020, 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Abouttime2fish View Post
Eh. Not trying to complain. Others got it way worse. My point was just I’m not at all motivated to work these days at less pay. Add crappy layovers, no matter the location they all seem to sux right now, mask nazi FAs turning in co workers, mask nazi passengers turning in everyone, non compliant passengers making everyone’s life difficult..... I’d just rather stay home.
Lemne guess, 2014/2015 hire never had to sit reserve and upgrade at 6-9 months. Oh, the humanity of being displaced back to FO after 6 whooole yeeeears at the company!
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Originally Posted by Abouttime2fish View Post
Eh. Not trying to complain. Others got it way worse. My point was just I’m not at all motivated to work these days at less pay. Add crappy layovers, no matter the location they all seem to sux right now, mask nazi FAs turning in co workers, mask nazi passengers turning in everyone, non compliant passengers making everyone’s life difficult..... I’d just rather stay home.
Mask Nazi FA and Pax aye? You forgot to add #MAGA2020 to the end of your post

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