Scoop

To what can we attribute our current operational woes? Generic issues like weather and varying demand don't really cut it since AAL and UAL do not appear to be similarly affected. IMHO SILs could be much more effectively used than the very static and non variable UNA concept. SILs seem to be much more dynamic and almost infinitely variable in that they can be adjusted on a monthly basis at a minimum. I would argue that SILs could have easily been crafted to dial down to allow weekly or bi-weekly variability.

What makes this even worse is that for years we were pretty much running the top airline operationally - now we are basically bringing up the rear. I guess we did have more folks take the early retirement but I am not really sure that is what is causing our issues. Does this all go back to the big displacement bid prior to early outs combined with intransigence on SILs?

Thought from any Line dogs?

Scoop

fishforfun

How many guys are on fully paid SILs (UNA/NQAT) currently that could be flying?

UAL still requires their bottom 1/3 to still fly and allows them to pickup if they want to make more. Ours are just sitting at home.

This is in no way a shot at our guys, they have been through hell the last 6+ months as hostages but we have the people to fly the trips. It’s not cosmic.

GeneralLee

We all know the answer, cutting way to many at all levels of the company and dialing up capacity expecting the system can absorb most of it, which we couldn’t. Going forward I’m very concerned about our ability to get back to what we once were pre COVID. Everyone could see the way the company used AEs was going to result in a train wreck. I know folks that have been sitting NQ for months now.

Embarrassing having to explain this to family over the Christmas holiday as they read about our woes in the news.

Drum

The 3 hour sit aka the airport standby in ATL are alive and well. 3 for 3 on reroutes.

That tells me everything I need to know and so far it's what you guys are alluding to.

GogglesPisano

I’m thinking we, um ... over-indexed.

Trip7

IMO, brainstorming ideas wouldn't be an efficient use of our time because there is something going on behind the scenes in Flight Ops that they chose not to disclose. As world class as Management is, they resort to using big words in nonsensical statements when they want to mask something.

Examples include:

Safety for Sale Non Rev Seat Blocking Response:
Failed to answer pilot's question with a bizarre response about "multi - pronged" approach

Thanksgiving Meltdown:
Nonsensical response referencing a "Cross Divisional" Response team

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GogglesPisano

Let’s watch the “Gate Latency” and “Dwell Time” to the second — but don’t rush.

All 5 Stages

And they were going to furlough 2,558?!

A5S

ElCaribe

It’s the same managerial philosophy that had us running at red line in 2019. Now we’ve depleted our workforce through the company’s attempt at squeezing concessions and it’s biting back.

m3113n1a1

I think they made a strategic decision to squeeze the operation and don't really care about the cancellations, because at the end of the day most people got where they needed to go maybe just a few hours late and Delta still got their money. It's not like these are business travelers who paid top dollar and are expecting to be on time to their meetings.

It's probably cheaper to cancel than to carry an extra 1000 pilots just for Thanksgiving and Christmas when they are expecting the rest of winter to be extra slow. But yes, SILs would definitely be more advantageous than blanket UNAs.
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