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JamesBond 03-20-2021 10:00 AM

When Section 6 starts up again...
 
Just curious. Have any views changed on here concerning any retirement restoration for the guys in the retirement window (i.e. deadzoners) and/or revisiting a different kind of retirement plan other than a 401k?

Fire away!

theUpsideDown 03-20-2021 10:02 AM

I'm still feeling the same about wide body and narrow body scope. Thats still my primary issue.

JamesBond 03-20-2021 10:11 AM


Originally Posted by theUpsideDown (Post 3209204)
I'm still feeling the same about wide body and narrow body scope. Thats still my primary issue.

And that is?

Der Meister 03-20-2021 10:12 AM

Not sure how many DZrs are left after the early out. No one was ever really able to actually define who was a DZr to begin with, as many felt they were but were they really?

As far as the other retirement plan that already got voted in on LOA20-04 (MBCP).

Scope and QOL to the moon! Fellow apes. Lol

GivemeVSP 03-20-2021 10:14 AM


Originally Posted by JamesBond (Post 3209203)
Just curious. Have any views changed on here concerning any retirement restoration for the guys in the retirement window (i.e. deadzoners) and/or revisiting a different kind of retirement plan other than a 401k?

Fire away!

Seems the VEOP eliminated a lot of that demographic

JamesBond 03-20-2021 10:15 AM


Originally Posted by Der Meister (Post 3209214)
Not sure how many DZrs are left after the early out. No one was ever really able to actually define who was a DZr to begin with, as many felt they were but were they really?

As far as the other retirement plan that already got voted in on LOA20-04.

Scope and QOL to the moon!

Alright... I'll throw out my favorite... longevity pay. What say you? Worth fighting for?
And the VEOP didn't get rid of all of us.

MJP27 03-20-2021 10:17 AM


Originally Posted by JamesBond (Post 3209203)
Just curious. Have any views changed on here concerning any retirement restoration for the guys in the retirement window (i.e. deadzoners) and/or revisiting a different kind of retirement plan other than a 401k?

Fire away!

Lol. Back to the DZ carve out.....

JamesBond 03-20-2021 10:20 AM


Originally Posted by MJP27 (Post 3209220)
Lol. Back to the DZ carve out.....

More out of curiosity than anything. I just wondered if the near furlough and backsliding has instilled any humility in the junior ranks. I have my answer.

Der Meister 03-20-2021 10:25 AM


Originally Posted by JamesBond (Post 3209216)
Alright... I'll throw out my favorite... longevity pay. What say you? Worth fighting for?
And the VEOP didn't get rid of all of us.

With more longevity you have better seniority which allows you to bid bigger aircraft, that pay better, and potentially better QOL, more vacation time, better schedule, and higher pay... over those with less longevity. So you're already ahead in those aspects.

Or are you talking about restoration of a pension that was terminated years ago with 60% AFE? I guess it just depends on cost and how many pilots would benefit from it vs using that cost to increase the contract in other areas.

MJP27 03-20-2021 10:26 AM


Originally Posted by JamesBond (Post 3209223)
More out of curiosity than anything. I just wondered if the near furlough and backsliding has instilled any humility in the junior ranks. I have my answer.

Yeah, well at least you're consistent, out here trolling for $. You know times are looking up when you DZ carveout guys crawl out of the woodwork.


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