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HTBH 04-02-2021 04:33 PM


Originally Posted by crewdawg (Post 3215535)
23.I.9 Exception 1, and exception to if the category has an MSL (which I don't think any do right now).

It actually says a PD "may" be denied. I tried it occasionally over a couple year period and never once had it approved, even on days with plenty of coverage.

ah..there it is. I was looking in the reserve area not the PD drop area. Thanks.

bsh932 04-03-2021 08:19 AM

How difficult is it to cover LC from ATL if based in NYC? It looks like all the 330 trips start in the late afternoon, early evening. It seems like it wouldn't be too difficult, but I'd love to hear from those who have done it. Thanks

Funk 04-03-2021 08:59 AM


Originally Posted by bsh932 (Post 3215932)
How difficult is it to cover LC from ATL if based in NYC? It looks like all the 330 trips start in the late afternoon, early evening. It seems like it wouldn't be too difficult, but I'd love to hear from those who have done it. Thanks

Precovid, there were 30+ ATL-NYC flights per day, but getting a seat to the preferred airport (JFK) could be much more difficult. Lots of Airbus jump seats to LGA, and the car/Uber ride is pretty reasonable both in price and time. EWR adds more options (and more likely open), but the car/Uber ride takes longer and is much more expensive. The other question is how quickly you can get yourself to ATL from the time you get the call? It’s a short flight, but if you need time to respond and get to ATL, have a backup (depends on the commuting rules in force at the time), and get from LGA or EWR to JFK, those all add complexity and time. Lastly, before taking the word/perception of an anonymous clown like myself, I would strongly suggest looking at the scheduled flight options and the cost/time of notional Uber rides from other airports. If you don’t want to do that, how likely are you to keep up with the changing options to keep yourself legal for the commute? YMMV

sailingfun 04-03-2021 12:51 PM


Originally Posted by bsh932 (Post 3215932)
How difficult is it to cover LC from ATL if based in NYC? It looks like all the 330 trips start in the late afternoon, early evening. It seems like it wouldn't be too difficult, but I'd love to hear from those who have done it. Thanks

Its reasonable to sit long call in ATL. As the schedule returns there are lots of options to JFK and LGA. The last flights of the night are late enough and first flights early enough that you won’t have a witching hour or two were you are hanging it out like many commutes to NY.

FangsF15 04-03-2021 01:59 PM


Originally Posted by bsh932 (Post 3215932)
How difficult is it to cover LC from ATL if based in NYC? It looks like all the 330 trips start in the late afternoon, early evening. It seems like it wouldn't be too difficult, but I'd love to hear from those who have done it. Thanks

I did it on the 765 4-5 years ago. At that time, it was very doable to be fully legal with lots of options (since all the reports were late afternoon or evening, as were the SC starts. Notable exception were 2-day non-commutable domestic trips). Probably half the time I was on the JS, half as a non-rev. I took a cab between LGA & JFK once, and did the subway once just so I knew how. Otherwise, I always took an Uber. Easy peasy.

sigler 04-03-2021 02:55 PM

Public transportation to/from EWR is a lot cheaper and many times quicker than taking an Uber. Airtrain to train to subway to either bus or airtrain can be a bit tricky if you’ve never done it, but Citymapper will spell out exactly what you need to do. Well worth a try.

HTBH 04-04-2021 04:22 PM

Speaking of widebody reserve.... it appears the optimizer has hit the widebodies.

Looking at some trips on ATL330 for next month. Trips down to Chile and Argentina. 9-10 hours down, 13-14 hour ground time (all during the daylight hours) and 9-10 hours back. Is this normal for the widebodies at all and the picture of things to come? Because this might be the kind of trip a junior widebody reserve pilot will getting a lot of.

crewdawg 04-04-2021 05:27 PM


Originally Posted by HTBH (Post 3216789)
Speaking of widebody reserve.... it appears the optimizer has hit the widebodies.

Looking at some trips on ATL330 for next month. Trips down to Chile and Argentina. 9-10 hours down, 13-14 hour ground time (all during the daylight hours) and 9-10 hours back. Is this normal for the widebodies at all and the picture of things to come? Because this might be the kind of trip a junior widebody reserve pilot will getting a lot of.

Yikes. That sounds very fatiguing. Here's hoping that's not what we'll see going forward.

Planetrain 04-04-2021 05:31 PM


Originally Posted by HTBH (Post 3216789)
Speaking of widebody reserve.... it appears the optimizer has hit the widebodies.

Looking at some trips on ATL330 for next month. Trips down to Chile and Argentina. 9-10 hours down, 13-14 hour ground time (all during the daylight hours) and 9-10 hours back. Is this normal for the widebodies at all and the picture of things to come? Because this might be the kind of trip a junior widebody reserve pilot will getting a lot of.

ER used to have the $2 Brasilia rocket. Sounds similar, went senior due to efficiency. Wont last in open time long.

AlphaBeta 04-04-2021 05:45 PM


Originally Posted by Planetrain (Post 3216835)
ER used to have the $2 Brasilia rocket. Sounds similar, went senior due to efficiency. Wont last in open time long.

Agreed, that is extremely efficient. You do 1 of those a week and you are at 80 hours for 12 days of work. Probably lose a day on the backend though due to being exhausted.


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