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Originally Posted by JamesBond (Post 3217070)

They are all made in the same Chinese sweatshops. But let's talk about reparations for slavery that ended 150 years ago shallwe?

I have nothing to do with that conversation, and that’s an entirely different thread. I was simply making a new balance joke

And....just like that another thread goes down the political rabbit hole.

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Originally Posted by Buck Rogers (Post 3217057)

Boog for the win....always stand in awe or your well thought out rebuttals. Again.!

Don’t need to write some long post to get the point across that you’re lying about calling your co-workers, at work, “Chumps”. Didn’t happen. Very Trump like of you to push bravado on things that didn’t happen though. Funny

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Originally Posted by HTBH (Post 3217075)

And....just like that another thread goes down the political rabbit hole.

Maybe the civility will come back when companies stop interjecting into political issues with divisive rhetoric.

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Originally Posted by JamesBond (Post 3217054)

Well, apparently the Trump sticker I had on my suitcase created a hostile work environment. So yeah, I think BLM pins are offensive. But I guess my opinion and feelings don't matter.

Did Buck call you a chump too?

I think we can all agree that using UNA as a category was an incredibly stupid idea to begin with. You’re already forced by the PSP to provide full pay, and the difference between 737 reserve guarantee and 717 @ 65 hours is minuscule in the grand scheme. Why not just keep those people qualified and now you’re fat on narrow body FOs that you’re already paying for anyway.

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Originally Posted by Jodaaddy (Post 3217138)

This.

But at least there's no FA union.

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Originally Posted by gloopy (Post 3217149)

This.

But at least there's no FA union.

If mgmt track record is any indication... I suspect AFA will be on property by years end. Then this is all a total loss.

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Originally Posted by TegridyFarms (Post 3217160)

If mgmt track record is any indication... I suspect AFA will be on property by years end. Then this is all a total loss.

Not a SWA expert but heard the legend that Herb Kelleher once told his pilots to organize because he was tired of trying to cat wrangle the lot of them every day. "Pick your reps and send them to me please" kind of thing.

I think most pilots never really cared either way about a FA drive as its clearly their decision. But playing high stakes poker with the operation as some kind of philosophical prime directive may mean its time to remove that as a variable? Whatever, its up to them.

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Originally Posted by Buck Rogers (Post 3216550)

Yes....and they divided their group into thirds. The top third took a 10% ALV cut, the middle third a 20% ALV cut and the bottom third a 50% cut all in an attempt to eliminate furloughs(lots of other moving parts in there) But still, I stand by the assertion that most Delta posters opining about their deal were uniformly negative and expressed a sentiment of "UAL sold us (Delta) down the river".

When does reading the tea leaves properly constitute being astute and when does it just become "luck"?

UAL guy here. Just thought I’d chime in on your post.

Any UAL pilot that took the time and understood there was a long game gamble being placed voted yes.

IMHO, anyone against it was looking at “how does it affect me today” vice where we will be at some point in the not too distant future.

Those that complain loudly were in the former group. And most of them are now coming around.

I won’t try and compare your solution to ours. I will say that we don’t have the UNA option you do so that wasn’t on the table.

A long bet was made. In the end thanks to continued government cheese (factored in to our strategy) we made a good deal on this.

Yes, luck was involved but I’d rather be lucky than good. In this case, we were both IMHO.

Yall take care!

Lee