You sound like a junior guy in his category jealous of senior pilots picking up whiteslips?

 

I like the thought, but if there is no trigger, e'rrybody drops their schedule and the senior guys fly it all at double pay. I'm bidding back to the Baby bus if that's the case.

 

Ya, it's not that simple. GS aren't bad in and of themselves, it's what comes along with GSs going out like they do now. Namely, lack of staffing and the ability to drop trips/manipulate your schedule and/or the lovely reroute to the cush trip your seniority allowed you to bid. I'd much rather have blue days every day of the year than have lots of GSs. GS are meant to be the occasional thing that happens to fill last minute schedule changes/sick call, not something the company just relies on to keep the operation going. So sure, you can say don't fly GS if you don't want, but it's missing the bigger issue.

 

Nope...< 30% in category.

I was attempting to provide a solution to the problem Buck proposed...a middle ground if you will.

Delta awards you trips over XX hours (insert your favorite number here), it pays double...like overtime in the 40 hour work week world.

You elect to flog yourself and pickup to the FAA limits from OT or swap board, then you get straight pay...you did it to yourself.

Folks will still drop trips and pick up others (at straight pay) to get a certain weekend off, kids birthday party etc....those QOL events.

Then when DL can't fill the open trips because of the poor manning, they will send out greenies, and IMO, they should pay 200% with no trigger because we are helping solve their problem. GS rules won't change...senior guys still get one...locals will still be able to pick up the short notice 1 day turns, etc.

 

Discussions on Greenslips are like discussions on masks/vaccines. Brings out the emotions of many.

IMO, the current system is great and was enhanced even more when the LOA dropped the trigger to max of 72 for line holders.

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Once again, unintended consequences are a b****. Senior pilots with just drop their trips and pick up GS with no trigger. Lowering the trigger in LOA 20-04 was a win, but lowering it to 0 is just a bad idea for 90% of us. No thanks.

 

You obviously haven’t been a NB B for a very long time. No dropping trips and then flying premium. No dropping trips at all except for APD and IVD. Thank god for those.

There should be no trigger. None. Zero. You want me to fly on a day off, pay me. If you want or need it that bad, pay up. Simple as that. If you want to drop your schedule and roll the dice you’ll get GSs in their place, good on you.

 

What we need now is to lower the time for deposit time in the bank. I’m not WS above 80hrs to put time in the bank. I want to work less and be able to get a GS. We should be able to deposit in the bank anything above the the Gs trigger.

 

This right here!

 

I like it....The only thing that could happen is Delta may actually increase staffing and mostly do away with greenslips if no trigger exists. Something like a 50 hour trigger could be a better option. Most pilots are above the trigger anyway during a normal month..Also as mentioned above, Delta will just keep staffing levels where trip drops would be almost impossible. The super senior guys would really make a killing if no gs trigger exists. They would just get the best trips in the bid packet and drop via the swapboard when staffing is marginal to gs. I'm good with that, but most pilots will complain.