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04-27-2021, 11:01 AM
#121
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Originally Posted by Trip7
It's like that nearly worldwide outside of the USA. Our pay and benefits combined with our job protections are unparalleled globally.
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04-27-2021, 11:08 AM
#122
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Joined APC: Dec 2010
Position: 320B
Posts: 369
Originally Posted by PilotBases
Ryanair and crew have basically turned this into a gig job in Europe. Contract staffing agencies are commonplace globally. Make no mistake, the United States in the best nation on the planet to a be a pilot in, CARES 1,2,3 proved it. Sure you could make nuts money as a contract pilot in China, but QOL is nonexistent. Remember, pre Covid pilots from around the world poured in to try and get H1B visas just to work at regionals! I have a young cousin in Ireland who was interested in becoming a pilot and from all the research I could do, he’d be better off moving stateside and slogging through everything here.
04-27-2021, 11:20 AM
#123
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Joined APC: Sep 2015
Position: UNA
Posts: 4,422
Originally Posted by Bert Sampson
I know it would run counter to collective bargaining goals but I would be really interested in seeing a comparison of compensation and work rules worldwide a la the comparisons we see for ALPA counterparts.
Rostering, rigs, salary vs hourly, seat locks and 1000 other things
04-27-2021, 11:21 AM
#124
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
Meanwhile... Airbus has announced a program to replace the A320, which is a follow-on to the concept illustration above. This jet family, to begin deliveries in the early 2030's will be single pilot capable, but unlikely to be single-pilot certified.
In NEO news, the 321 XLR will get a significant redo of it's FBW system to remove both FACs, one SEC, the rudder travel limiter systems and the mechanical link to the rudder. Guess that would leave us with two elevator-aileron computers, and two spoiler-elevator computers. The rudder will be controlled through the two elevator-aileron computers, for normal law, and the two remaining spoiler-elevator computers, plus a new back-up module in direct law.
https://www.airbus.com/newsroom/news...he-future.html
04-27-2021, 12:50 PM
#125
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Joined APC: Jan 2011
Position: Wind checker
Posts: 763
Originally Posted by freezingflyboy
Most of the younger pilots have been jerked around and played like fools in the regional game for years because of scope. Believe me, us dumb "younger" pilots are intimately familiar with and care PLENTY about scope. Without ironclad scope language (and penalties for violation!), none of the rest of the contract, pay rates, DH language, AE bidding...ANY of it...matters. Of all the rips I give at contract time, the first and biggest is definitely about scope. Somewhere near the bottom, just before I get to "don't really care" is pay rates.
Signed,
-a "younger" pilot
Signed,
-a "younger" pilot
04-28-2021, 12:08 PM
#126
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Originally Posted by Trip7
It's like that nearly worldwide outside of the USA. Our pay and benefits combined with our job protections are unparalleled globally.
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04-29-2021, 06:54 AM
#127
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Originally Posted by Trip7
It's like that nearly worldwide outside of the USA. Our pay and benefits combined with our job protections are unparalleled globally.
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Cathay Pacific just closed their Canadian and Australian pilot domiciles last week. Those are pilots with 15-30 years seniority and simply fired. No recourse no nothing. You can’t do that here.
While Emirates was laying off pilots by fleet out of seniority our management was forced to offer the VEOP. If DL management could have, they would have fired every single 330/765/350 guy last year. They were sitting at home getting paid to not fly. But our labor law prevents it and that’s great.
Cheers to being a pilot in the US today. My friends overseas are watching the profession and future career get destroyed.
04-29-2021, 07:01 AM
#128
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Originally Posted by marcal
100% accurate. I flew overseas pre-DL. The control over our schedules and comp blows away anything overseas. Combined with first world(USA) labor laws and protections it is amazing what we have.
Cathay Pacific just closed their Canadian and Australian pilot domiciles last week. Those are pilots with 15-30 years seniority and simply fired. No recourse no nothing. You can’t do that here.
While Emirates was laying off pilots by fleet out of seniority our management was forced to offer the VEOP. If DL management could have, they would have fired every single 330/765/350 guy last year. They were sitting at home getting paid to not fly. But our labor law prevents it and that’s great.
Cheers to being a pilot in the US today. My friends overseas are watching the profession and future career get destroyed.
Cathay Pacific just closed their Canadian and Australian pilot domiciles last week. Those are pilots with 15-30 years seniority and simply fired. No recourse no nothing. You can’t do that here.
While Emirates was laying off pilots by fleet out of seniority our management was forced to offer the VEOP. If DL management could have, they would have fired every single 330/765/350 guy last year. They were sitting at home getting paid to not fly. But our labor law prevents it and that’s great.
Cheers to being a pilot in the US today. My friends overseas are watching the profession and future career get destroyed.
Scope. Scope. Scope. Scope. Scope. Scope.
04-29-2021, 07:04 AM
#129
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Posts: 630
Originally Posted by marcal
100% accurate. I flew overseas pre-DL. The control over our schedules and comp blows away anything overseas. Combined with first world(USA) labor laws and protections it is amazing what we have.
Cathay Pacific just closed their Canadian and Australian pilot domiciles last week. Those are pilots with 15-30 years seniority and simply fired. No recourse no nothing. You can’t do that here.
While Emirates was laying off pilots by fleet out of seniority our management was forced to offer the VEOP. If DL management could have, they would have fired every single 330/765/350 guy last year. They were sitting at home getting paid to not fly. But our labor law prevents it and that’s great.
Cheers to being a pilot in the US today. My friends overseas are watching the profession and future career get destroyed.
Cathay Pacific just closed their Canadian and Australian pilot domiciles last week. Those are pilots with 15-30 years seniority and simply fired. No recourse no nothing. You can’t do that here.
While Emirates was laying off pilots by fleet out of seniority our management was forced to offer the VEOP. If DL management could have, they would have fired every single 330/765/350 guy last year. They were sitting at home getting paid to not fly. But our labor law prevents it and that’s great.
Cheers to being a pilot in the US today. My friends overseas are watching the profession and future career get destroyed.
