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Originally Posted by AlphaBeta (Post 3231152)

I agree, none of the “recall committee “ has anyone’s best interest in mind besides their own. This whole thing is just dividing us up more. And the fact “bb” has never apologized for his letter during bankruptcy is ridiculous.

What did the letter say? Cliff notes is fine.

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Originally Posted by tennisguru (Post 3231133)

Their term is almost up anyways - I think there will be a normal election in the fall either way.

It’s a huge waste of time and nothing but a distraction. It will fail.

All 4 reps in C44 lead the charge for whatever management wants. What more it there to say?

If you want to switch sides like Desi, then by all means.

The Atlanta pilots elected them to represent them, not management.

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Originally Posted by gzsg (Post 3231200)

Got some examples for those not into the day to day drama?

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Originally Posted by Herkflyr (Post 3231076)

It may pass, but I hope a lot of the junior guys are aware that BB, the chief architect and whiner, is actually angry that the junior guys did NOT get furloughed, and in fact is holding up a lack of furlough as a serious benefit that junior guys got at the "expense" of senior guys (and I am one of the modestly senior guys these days, and cannot fathom that kind of thinking).

I do agree that the lack of meetings is a real problem. But don't think for one second that this is about the "greater good" for C44. This is about a small cadre of already super-senior guys embracing the "got mine, want yours" mindset. If we vote out the current reps, the world will not come to an end, and we will move on with new reps, like we have for many years. But I don't think that anything better will result. Nor do I think that keeping them in office will herald great things either.

I hope I’m not out of line with this,

BB very much came across as not “anti concessions” but actively pro furlough on FB this summer and fall. I think that was apparent to many hired in the past 4 years. Since he is the voice of this movement, I think many of the junior pilots will show up to vote against this for the same reason, they may or may not be pro current C44 reps, but are very anti BB and his line of thinking.

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Originally Posted by AlphaBeta (Post 3231152)

And the fact “bb” has never apologized for his letter during bankruptcy is ridiculous.

do you know where an inquiring mind might find this letter?

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Originally Posted by gzsg (Post 3231200)

I will probably vote to recall C44, but it’s this kinda of extremist BS that makes it very easy to dismiss every single thing said by people who talk like this.

Same for BB on FB, regardless of whether he has the occasional valid point, there is so much “ME, ME, ME” blowhard-ness, he is oblivious to how much damage he does to his own desired outcome.

I’ve even gotten unsolicited PM’s from BB, condescension dripping off every line of the book he wrote, completely unaware of how to frame a compelling argument. They went into my circular file where they belong. I don’t get riled up about much, but this kind of crap is on the list.

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Originally Posted by Rooster435 (Post 3231240)

Got some examples for those not into the day to day drama?

No. They don't.

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Originally Posted by Wolf424 (Post 3231165)

What did the letter say? Cliff notes is fine.

I can't remember details but I think the gist was he was mad about not being able to pick up more flying? I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong.

The Atlanta Reps directed 3 LOAs.

Those 3 LOA's were ratified by the pilots.

Nobody was furloughed. Most everyone got a better job.

IMHO a resolution of appreciation is more appropriate than a recall.