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Scoop 07-10-2021 04:32 AM

Got to agree with Trip here. Anonymous internet advice is not to be taken as fact, or as right or wrong, but is merely food for thought.

I have learned a lot from teenagers in their parents basement over the years. :)

Scoop

Extenda 07-10-2021 04:51 AM

11300ish seniority here, live 1:20 drive from NYC, putting in 7ER from 320 next AE. IMO the 320 trips are awful, showtimes are awful (either super early or super late), layovers are awful and boring (most of them get in too late to even grab a beer). The 320 is a boring plane to fly. I don’t care about a tray table or fancy ergonomics. I wanted to try something new, and wanted to fly the 75/76 before it goes away for good. YMMV.

NoDeskJob 07-10-2021 05:03 AM


Originally Posted by Extenda (Post 3261602)
11300ish seniority here, live 1:20 drive from NYC, putting in 7ER from 320 next AE. IMO the 320 trips are awful, showtimes are awful (either super early or super late), layovers are awful and boring (most of them get in too late to even grab a beer). The 320 is a boring plane to fly. I don’t care about a tray table or fancy ergonomics. I wanted to try something new, and wanted to fly the 75/76 before it goes away for good. YMMV.

i agree with Extenda on moving to ER (but not OP).
11300 in NYC ER would be decent, and he will move up fast. Plus NYC probably has the best overall ER flying in the system. And driving distance to nyc means you don’t care about checkin times.
lax on the other hand is more senior, and the trips seem worse on the ER

PilotBases 07-10-2021 06:14 AM


Originally Posted by JacksonThunder (Post 3261545)
Any particular reason the ER has been going so junior (new hires)? As an outsider looking in, it seems like the ER would be the ideal aircraft?

Doesn’t pay much more than 321/739 and typically you can get better seniority on those fleets, so easier to make money if you want. Also it’s marked as a shrinking fleet, so locking yourself to it for two years, plus until the next AE, then your conversion can keep you on it longer than you expect, not fun when it eventually sees more jets parked, you’ll be on a shrinking fleet as the unlocked people above bail out. A321 pays a hair less than 7ER, is continually growing, and in every base bad Seattle. If you don’t want one of the four corners, ER doesn’t do you much good. 73N also does some nice flying, transcons and islands, so you can get your fill there and again, historically be more senior. Other downside of ER is for newhires, you’re on training pay until done with TOE.

Denny Crane 07-10-2021 07:01 AM


Originally Posted by LandGreen2 (Post 3261553)
No seat lock for first time Capt is there?

Not exactly sure what you mean here…..

There is a seat lock for any AE including bidding to Captain for the first time. As an FO with a seat lock bidding to Captain for the first time, you can do it but I think whatever seat lock you have left in the FO position is added to your Captain bid seat lock. Or something like that.

Denny

GogglesPisano 07-10-2021 07:07 AM


Originally Posted by LandGreen2 (Post 3261553)
No seat lock for first time Capt is there?

Well, it gets you out of a lock, but that lock is added to your sentence.

Trip7 07-10-2021 07:11 AM


Originally Posted by GogglesPisano (Post 3261648)
Well, it gets you out of a lock, but that lock is added to your sentence.

Yup, I did a 3.5 year sentence on the 717, which wasn't so bad when there was West Coast flying before everything consolidated into East of the Mississippi ex-CRJ200 flying

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TED74 07-10-2021 07:17 AM


Originally Posted by Trip7 (Post 3261578)
Stating anonymous internet advice is worthless, is a pretty silly statement. The OP can use the experiences and perspectives of others to apply to his own personal situation/preferences, which can help him form his own decision. I've used this forum and others countless time to help form decisions through out my career, particularly the decision to skip Widebody FO and go for Capt.

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To be precise, I said “pretty worthless,” with the modifier about people who don’t know any of the poster’s situational details. You’ll note I still offered some thoughts to try to be helpful. The question was originally posed without much perspective, so as Rumsfeld might have said, there are a lot of known unknowns, very few known knowns and an unknown number of unknown unknowns :-)

We are all more likely to get actionable information if we provide a little extra detail WRT our own situation so advice can be tailored to it. My advice to a single 20-something sharing an apartment 30 minutes from LAX is likely to be different than that to a commuting mother of 6 who can’t sleep on an airplane.

GogglesPisano 07-10-2021 07:18 AM


Originally Posted by Trip7 (Post 3261652)
which wasn't so bad

Yes, it was. Enlightenment begins with honesty.

Congrats on the 737. Night and day, as you know.

Trip7 07-10-2021 07:20 AM


Originally Posted by GogglesPisano (Post 3261659)
Yes, it was. Enlightenment begins with honesty.

Congrats on the 737. Night and day, as you know.

More of a philosophical discussion since the West Coast flying on the 717 doesn't exist anymore, but if that was bad what do you call today's 717 flying?

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