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Old 07-25-2021 | 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by JamesBond
LOL Stop digging. Nobody said it will happen this year or even five years from now. I believe at one point computer speed was doubling about every 2 or 3 years. That speed is the lynchpin of artificial intelligence. And with increasing speed comes lowered costs. Spacecraft already go to the ISS essentially 'pilotless' Why do you think an airliner is so tough?
Easy, no crosswind in space.
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Old 07-25-2021 | 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by JamesBond
LOL Stop digging. Nobody said it will happen this year or even five years from now. I believe at one point computer speed was doubling about every 2 or 3 years. That speed is the lynchpin of artificial intelligence. And with increasing speed comes lowered costs. Spacecraft already go to the ISS essentially 'pilotless' Why do you think an airliner is so tough?
AI is not really limited by speed. It is limited by learning. For AI to work it must be shown every possible image on every situation, then continue to the next phase and be taught every scenario again. An example: Tesla’s are “taught” what a stop sign looks like. It must be shown what they look like in 180 degree variations on both planes. You know what still fools the AI, a sticker anywhere on the sign, sunset/sunrise, or snow. You know why they can have spacecraft auto dock at the ISS, there is only one of them and there are only sunlight variations to overcome. AI is super useful for repetitive task type stuff, unpredictable variations, it literally gives up.

The magical 350 may make it seem the automation makes you redundant, that’s just because you used to have to do more. Unfortunately the automation just seems to eliminate hand flying, which goes back to our jobs being about decision making, luckily that can’t be so easily engineered.
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Old 07-25-2021 | 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Gooner
AI is not really limited by speed. It is limited by learning. For AI to work it must be shown every possible image on every situation, then continue to the next phase and be taught every scenario again. An example: Tesla’s are “taught” what a stop sign looks like. It must be shown what they look like in 180 degree variations on both planes. You know what still fools the AI, a sticker anywhere on the sign, sunset/sunrise, or snow. You know why they can have spacecraft auto dock at the ISS, there is only one of them and there are only sunlight variations to overcome. AI is super useful for repetitive task type stuff, unpredictable variations, it literally gives up.

The magical 350 may make it seem the automation makes you redundant, that’s just because you used to have to do more. Unfortunately the automation just seems to eliminate hand flying, which goes back to our jobs being about decision making, luckily that can’t be so easily engineered.
So we have reached the end? Wow. Cool. I have seen man land on the moon for the first time to seeing the end of the technological universe.
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Old 07-25-2021 | 06:07 PM
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So we have reached the end? Wow. Cool. I have seen man land on the moon for the first time to seeing the end of the technological universe.
You are exhausting. So since you decided you have seen the robots coming and nothing can stop that take over, that is the only truth that exists. All I did was explain why there are real and not insignificant hurdles to AI development and that equates to the end of the technological universe?

God I hate the internet; where conversations go to immolate in extreme close mindedness.
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Old 07-25-2021 | 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Gooner
You are exhausting. So since you decided you have seen the robots coming and nothing can stop that take over, that is the only truth that exists. All I did was explain why there are real and not insignificant hurdles to AI development and that equates to the end of the technological universe?

God I hate the internet; where conversations go to immolate in extreme close mindedness.
You did good. You're right its a bad medium.

Going to school with a lot of computer programmers had some advantages. One was talking about AI theory and the problem of programming it. Get a bunch of first year programmers in a room and ask them what is intelligence and consciousness. 50 kids 50 answers. Do the same thing with professional programmers with 10 years experience. 50 professionals 150 answers.

We don't know what we're doing yet. Someday.
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Old 07-25-2021 | 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Planetrain;[url=tel:3268980
3268980[/url]]Easy, no crosswind in space.
Solar winds. Duh
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Old 07-26-2021 | 03:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Gooner
You are exhausting. So since you decided you have seen the robots coming and nothing can stop that take over, that is the only truth that exists. All I did was explain why there are real and not insignificant hurdles to AI development and that equates to the end of the technological universe?

God I hate the internet; where conversations go to immolate in extreme close mindedness.
That individual is not worth conversing with. The block feature is nice.
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Old 07-26-2021 | 04:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Gooner
You are exhausting. So since you decided you have seen the robots coming and nothing can stop that take over, that is the only truth that exists. All I did was explain why there are real and not insignificant hurdles to AI development and that equates to the end of the technological universe?

God I hate the internet; where conversations go to immolate in extreme close mindedness.
LOL I am the closed minded one? ygtbkm
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Old 07-26-2021 | 04:23 AM
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Originally Posted by jaxsurf
That individual is not worth conversing with. The block feature is nice.
You have no imagination.
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Old 07-26-2021 | 04:44 AM
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So how do pilotless airliners, or maybe even AI airliners with a “safety pilot” mitigate hacking from these dark web groups. Seems nobody is immune to hacking these days and taking over controls of a plane close to the ground would keep me from flying any AI airliner as a pax…even with a safety pilot?
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