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DWC CAP10 USAF 03-10-2022 06:24 PM
Originally Posted by Guppydriver95 (Post 3386742)
With all the green slips flying around for short staffing, I’m throwing the red challenge flag here. This sounds like a load of crap.
Originally Posted by Guppydriver95 (Post 3386743)
And, some flight office monkey can’t take a guys pay over the hat. There’s a disciplinary process with alpa in place for losing pay. Some suit’s whim doesn’t cut it. Your story is bunk.
Originally Posted by theUpsideDown (Post 3386756)
Cant actually happen in that order.
Originally Posted by Foggles (Post 3386764)
I’ll take things that didn’t happen for $200, please.
Originally Posted by Bell (Post 3386768)
Imagine the issues the CPO and RD actually spend their time dealing with on a daily basis, then consider how realistic this story sounds.
Originally Posted by cornbeef007 (Post 3386777)
I also tell my kids that they will get coal for Christmas if they are bad.
You are all hilarious.

Previous NYC RD was fired because PB wanted him to ramp up the good faith inquires for sick calls...he wouldn't do it so he was replaced....new RD (RM) takes office.

Capt in question is notorious for not wearing his hat...not even brining it. He has been warned a few times before. RM had hair across his arse, caught the Captain at sign in, and told him to go home and that his pay would be docked. (I do believe he kept pay or got it re-instated). Flight was delayed and went out 3 hours late when new Capt came in on greeny.

Gone Flying 03-10-2022 06:40 PM
Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF (Post 3386819)
You are all hilarious.

Previous NYC RD was fired because PB wanted him to ramp up the good faith inquires for sick calls...he wouldn't do it so he was replaced....new RD (RM) takes office.

Capt in question is notorious for not wearing his hat...not even brining it. He has been warned a few times before. RM had hair across his arse, caught the Captain at sign in, and told him to go home and that his pay would be docked. (I do believe he kept pay or got it re-instated). Flight was delayed and went out 3 hours late when new Capt came in on greeny.
is the R in RM his callsign or nickname or something?

FangsF15 03-10-2022 06:40 PM
Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF (Post 3386819)
Previous NYC RD was fired because PB wanted him to ramp up the good faith inquires for sick calls...he wouldn't do it so he was replaced....new RD (RM) takes office.
I know I’m ****ing in the wind here, but shouldn’t “good faith” inquires actually have an actual good faith reason for the call? Seems like pressure from above ain’t it…

If that’s true, I hope the NY reps lodged a formal complaint. But good on the (former) RD for refusing a BS order.

Having said that, I personally don’t mind good faith inquiries, cuz I don’t have anything to hide, and it comes off your verification total…

crewdawg 03-10-2022 06:40 PM
Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF (Post 3386819)
You are all hilarious.

Previous NYC RD was fired because PB wanted him to ramp up the good faith inquires for sick calls...he wouldn't do it so he was replaced....new RD (RM) takes office.

Capt in question is notorious for not wearing his hat...not even brining it. He has been warned a few times before. RM had hair across his arse, caught the Captain at sign in, and told him to go home and that his pay would be docked. (I do believe he kept pay or got it re-instated). Flight was delayed and went out 3 hours late when new Capt came in on greeny.


Didn't have to wear his hat AND got a paid vacation...I'd call thay a twofer!



Originally Posted by FangsF15 (Post 3386824)
Having said that, I personally don’t mind good faith inquiries, cuz I don’t have anything to hide, and it comes off your verification total…


AND that sick call is now verified, which means you wouldn't have to verify, you know, should that sickness keep you out a while lol.

DWC CAP10 USAF 03-10-2022 06:44 PM
Originally Posted by Gone Flying (Post 3386823)
is the R in RM his callsign or nickname or something?
Yes...LM real initials but everyone refers to him by the R nickname

Guppydriver95 03-10-2022 06:45 PM
Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF (Post 3386819)
You are all hilarious.

Previous NYC RD was fired because PB wanted him to ramp up the good faith inquires for sick calls...he wouldn't do it so he was replaced....new RD (RM) takes office.

Capt in question is notorious for not wearing his hat...not even brining it. He has been warned a few times before. RM had hair across his arse, caught the Captain at sign in, and told him to go home and that his pay would be docked. (I do believe he kept pay or got it re-instated). Flight was delayed and went out 3 hours late when new Capt came in on greeny.
like I said, it didn’t happen the way you first explained it. He didn’t lose pay and was sent home. So he got an extra paid vaca. Sounds like a good deal… Anytime management oversteps they get smacked by the contract and alpa. This is no exception.

DWC CAP10 USAF 03-10-2022 06:47 PM
Originally Posted by Guppydriver95 (Post 3386830)
like I said, it didn’t happen the way you first explained it. He didn’t lose pay and was sent home. So he got an extra paid vaca. Sounds like a good deal… Anytime management oversteps they get smacked by the contract and alpa. This is no exception.
The Capt was told, point blank to his face by the RD, that he would be docked pay and was told to grab his bag and go home....the course of events afterwards I was not privy too, so whether the pay came off his schedule and then re-instated, or never came off his time card at all, I will probably never know, but I'll make sure to ask next time I ever get to fly with said Cappy.

Guppydriver95 03-10-2022 06:55 PM
Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF (Post 3386831)
The Capt was told, point blank to his face by the RD, that he would be docked pay and was told to grab his bag and go home....the course of events afterwards I was not privy too, so whether the pay came off his schedule and then re-instated, or never came off his time card at all, I will probably never know, but I'll make sure to ask next time I ever get to fly with said Cappy.
Im sure the management weenie thought it would play out that way. But, he obviously isn’t versed in the finer points of contractual progressive discipline. We don’t want a bunch of little Hitlers running around thinking they can get in our wallets over something as trivial as a stupid hat. There are procedures in place to deal with disciplinary issues.

marcal 03-10-2022 06:56 PM
Originally Posted by neodd (Post 3386761)
RD sounds friendly
Multiple ACPs and CPs have resigned on his watch. An ACP actually told me he “wouldn’t wish working for current RD on his worst enemy”. There is a reason they need to blast the entire base with multiple requests to apply for these positions.

Our C66 reps have issues with the current RD, as do LLCPs.

In my one interaction with him he seemed fine but I don’t work for him.

Whoopsmybad 03-10-2022 07:13 PM
Originally Posted by Nantonaku (Post 3386486)
Awful like gas station nacho cheese sauce or awful like children hospitals getting bombed in Ukraine? There is a spectrum of awfulness. I can't remember the last time I saw a pilot in the terminal walking around without a hat. I've never seen someone wearing Vans shoes to work. And a North Face jacket is the standard commute jacket. Just because you know they are a pilot doesn't mean the general public does - there is nothing that says because you are a pilot with a pilot bag you can't wear a North Face jacket.
I saw 4 obvious no hat with the rest of the uniform just this past weekend. Just saying.


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