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03-19-2022 | 05:04 PM

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Anyone know who else has published NEO rates? Or is everyone else banded with NEO lumped in, so non-NEO specific rates.

03-19-2022 | 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnnychimpo

Anyone know who else has published NEO rates? Or is everyone else banded with NEO lumped in, so non-NEO specific rates.

Check out DALPA Contract Comparison updated last year: https://dal.alpa.org/Portals/1/Docum...Comparison.pdf

jetBlue has NEO's, but they pay same as their CEO rate

03-20-2022 | 01:00 AM

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Check out DALPA Contract Comparison updated last year: https://dal.alpa.org/Portals/1/Docum...Comparison.pdf

jetBlue has NEO's, but they pay same as their CEO rate

thanks. So when the company toots their own horn about offering NEO rates “that would be the highest in the industry,” they really meant to say “the first in the industry.”

03-20-2022 | 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by JustNarced

40% would be 5%/yr 2019 to 2027. Not saying that's my number
, but it is 10x higher than what the non-contracts got.

5% per year compounded annually over 8 years is 48%. That may be my number….

03-20-2022 | 03:42 AM

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thanks. So when the company toots their own horn about offering NEO rates “that would be the highest in the industry,” they really meant to say “the first in the industry.”

Currently Hawaiian, Spirit, Jet Blue and American operate the aircraft in the US. United has them on order but I don’t know if they have a pay rate.

03-20-2022 | 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Johnnychimpo

thanks. So when the company toots their own horn about offering NEO rates “that would be the highest in the industry,” they really meant to say “the first in the industry.”

or they could mean paying them the current 321CEO rate, this would still make their statement true

03-20-2022 | 05:17 AM

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5% per year compounded annually over 8 years is 48%. That may be my number….

My number is infinite. At least until a new PWA amendment is signed. 5% a year I understand, but why stop at 8 years? Do you think future punishment and falling further behind waiting on an amendment is acceptable?

03-20-2022 | 05:41 AM

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Fuzzy math there. And do think the non cons won’t get a raise between now and 2027?

They will, for sure. We will sign C23 and have openers in 2026 that get dragged out 2 to 3 years past the expiration date. Like I have said, THIS contract WILL represent a decade worth of earnings.

03-20-2022 | 05:58 AM

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or they could mean paying them the current 321CEO rate, this would still make their statement true

I'd be shocked if the company proposed anything other than current CEO rates for the NEO. Which isn't nearly as irritating as their attempt to spin it as "industry leading".