Originally Posted by Nantonaku (Post 3405032)

Just to get us even to 2019 buying power was the point. Not what retro or future raises would be, just the initial raise. And this seems to show that 20% is pretty close:

https://www.in2013dollars.com/us/inf...future_pct=0.1

Originally Posted by JustNarced (Post 3405004)

Agree. The worst contract was 4, 8, 3, 3 and we gave up PS and scope to get there. That x2 cycles is still over a 40% raise.



I'm all for not rushing it. We have high fuel prices and the world is still balancing supply chains and energy. At some point Delta is going to be killing it with $30m planes that are already paid for and generating RASM off a massively devalued dollar. I could see RASM up to 150% of 2019 and profits that sail well past 2019. Of course those dollars don't buy as much anymore.

Originally Posted by JustNarced (Post 3405046)

It looks like the S&P, real estate and gold are all up 40% since the peak of 2019. A starter home in any kind of a decent neighborhood with good schools near most of our hubs is well north of a million, that plus 2-300k in some of them.



The dollar has been trashed...

Originally Posted by Trip7 (Post 3405079)

Gave up scope? C2012 Brought the 717s and reduced the DCI fleet significantly. To this day AAL and UAL have larger RJ fleets




Again you're being alittle overzealous here. A Captain's house in the neighborhoods you described are over a million. Not a "starter home" [emoji23]



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Originally Posted by Breadcream (Post 3350715)

20% DC

Originally Posted by Trip7 (Post 3405079)

Gave up scope? C2012 Brought the 717s and reduced the DCI fleet significantly. To this day AAL and UAL have larger RJ fleets

And international scope? Oh thats right, you weren't here. And increased the total number of larger RJs as well. After C12, Delta set the bar for the worst scope except for Alaska.


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Originally Posted by Flyingtank (Post 3405085)

NH here looking for help understanding the DC. What’s the benefit of 20% over the current 16%? That’d save you ~1% in terms of tax if you max the additional 4% correct?

Originally Posted by JustNarced (Post 3405086)

Seattle, LA, OC and NYC? MSP? I'll give you south Georgia but not even Ann Arbor. It's not overzealous, this is the reality we are in. 4 % a year from 2019 until the end of this contract is 40%

Originally Posted by JustNarced (Post 3405092)

There is no benefit. Most pilots get a payraise the last half of the year or by September as they hit the max contribution. The 16% comes at you as straight pay.

Originally Posted by JustNarced (Post 3405086)

Seattle, LA, OC and NYC? MSP? I'll give you south Georgia but not even Ann Arbor. It's not overzealous, this is the reality we are in. 4 % a year from 2019 until the end of this contract is 40%

Originally Posted by Iceberg (Post 3405099)

The 401a compensation limit for contributions is 5 times the 401k contribution limit. 20% of the compensation limit would max the 401k contribution limit with company contributions alone. That’s the benefit.