And don’t forget about Sun Country. We will be so great if we can exceed their new contract. :rolleyes:

Quick contract question:

Does anyone know what happens when one has a carry in trip that goes into the month they convert? I convert to a new category on May 2 and haven’t been trained yet. My last trip ends late on the 2nd.

Thank you!

I love the optimism contained therein. Reality however, will be quite different.

You turn into a pumpkin 0001 02May. They could keep you on flying for the 1st. CPO said schedules don’t officially get in the system till 17th. Conflicts should resolve after that. That is what I was told yesterday same situation.

Yes, only 8% inflation is a bit optimistic, especially in light of the 8.5% YoY just reported, and that CPI typically understates true inflation. The truth of the matter is that, with the 8% assumption, anything less than a 22% increase is a reduction in real pay.

To quote Jerry Seinfeld, "it is what it is."

A5S

I wouldn’t be so quick to call it industry leading…it could technically be briefly but I’m not so confident it will stay that way

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Without a doubt. I just don't see 8%+ first year pay increase with full retro back to the amendable date.

Ain't. gonna. happen.

Fire away.

That's great. And then we can leap frog in the next contract. That's called pattern bargaining.

​​​​​​​Or we can just sit on our hands until the other airlines finish their negotiations.

Not saying you’re wrong but voting yes to an 8 percent raise would be solidifying a large inflation-induced paycut. Wouldn’t get my vote and I doubt it would pass.

You need to go back and read posts two years ago. Time value of money and contract timelessness were of no value. There would never be another black swan event.
It was worth holding out for years and full retro was a guarantee! The strategy that took us from a absolutely horribly bankruptcy contract back to top of the industry in 10 years was worthless. We did not even need to consider what worked and what has not worked. We jumped into the deep water with a plan that has never once succeeded in a industry under the RLA and it seems everyone thought we would simply walk on the water.
From all the recent posts it looks like reality has set in. Reality can be harsh, results matter. EB when we had just started negotiations said this was the most recalcitrant MEC he had ever dealt with. I suspect now he goes to bed every night thanking the gods for that recalcitrant MEC. It saved him billions!