MEC Brief: Operating At Red Line, Again
03-08-2022, 06:08 AM
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MEC Brief: Operating At Red Line, Again
Let me summarize it for you. . .
- Company ran the operation at Red Line in 2019 & 2020. They will do it again in 2022!
- GS's have increased 182% since 2018
- "Unfortunately, there is little ALPA committees can do. . ."
- So ALPA's solution is: "Flight Operations management must push back on Network demands and say enough is enough!"
- ALPA requests pilots to call in fatigued if fatigued.
Last edited by shock; 03-08-2022 at 06:30 AM.
03-08-2022, 06:31 AM
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No, I disagree. A contract is coming in the very near future. Trip and others told me so so I believe it. Putin and high oil be damned. Company needs some type of relief although I haven’t determined exactly what.
03-08-2022, 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by shock
Let me summarize it for you. . .
- Company ran the operation at Red Line in 2019 & 2020. They will do it again in 2022!
- GS's have increased 182% since 2018
- "Unfortunately, there is little ALPA committees can do. . ."
- So ALPA's solution is: "Flight Operations management must push back on Network demands and say enough is enough!"
- ALPA requests pilots to call in fatigued if fatigued.
03-08-2022, 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by shock
Let me summarize it for you. . .
- Company ran the operation at Red Line in 2019 & 2020. They will do it again in 2022!
- GS's have increased 182% since 2018
- "Unfortunately, there is little ALPA committees can do. . ."
- So ALPA's solution is: "Flight Operations management must push back on Network demands and say enough is enough!"
- ALPA requests pilots to call in fatigued if fatigued.
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03-08-2022, 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
This is another important reminder to not fly fatigued. If you are fatigued due to fatiguing rotations, call in fatigued. Reference last summer's series on how to do it.
03-08-2022, 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by 3 green
The junior domestic pilots fly fatiguing rotations every week. How many times can they call in fatigued before they are targeted for doing so?
03-08-2022, 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by 3 green
The junior domestic pilots fly fatiguing rotations every week. How many times can they call in fatigued before they are targeted for doing so?
03-08-2022, 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by ct330a
Fatigued is fatigued, no matter how many times it occurs. Beyond that, if DALPA cant help, other agencies may need to be involved.
03-08-2022, 08:21 AM
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The conundrum being if you don’t call in fatigued when you are fatigued now when you finally do get so fatigued you can’t avoid calling in it can be interpreted by some judge as a change in status meant to illegally affect negotiations.
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