Now I'm as big a fan of a good Cleveland joke as the next guy, but I must admit that I enjoyed my last overnight there. Downtown was actually pretty cool!

 

I kid, I lived outside of CLE for about 4 year and I agree that the downtown has lots to offer. If you had a 30 hours in the summer, a rental car would be worth it, lots of nice stuff not far away, including Cuyahoga Valley National Park. I'd gladly move back to the area...too bad CLE wasn't our DTW.

 

Haven't been since before covid, but got any suggestions? Is there anything worthwhile within a mile or two? If I recall, the area around the hotel was pretty scummy so I try to avoid CLE layovers.

 

There’s a decent bbq place on fourth street i think. Their fatty brisket is pretty respectable for a place north of the mason dixon. I believe it’s called mable’s.

 

The Corner Alley (4th Street) over by the Arcade.
The Winking Lizard does a tour of beers if you're a beer drinker
There are lots of restaurants down in the area where the Punchbowl Social
Rock N' Roll Hall of Fame
Browns Stadium (Scratch that...you said worthwhile )
Indians Stadium

 

You mean Guardians? 🤦🏻‍♂️

 

Spot on. The 73 outside of ATL is really good flying. 1 to 2 legs a day for the most part and great layovers. I agree completely that a lot of the angst is from the 88 affect. It's a big shock factor doing 1-2 legs a day for years and then thrown into endless RJ flying like what has happened to the 7ER(Official plane of Florida) and the 320(basically the new 88). The introduction of the NEO should improve things for the 320 while likely having very negative consequences for the 7ER. Furthermore, if Delta introduces the MAX to the fleet the 7ER fleet's longer stage length flights will virtually be limited to 767 international and specific routes that require 757 performance (St. Thomas, Quito, Tegucigalpa etc)

Brave New World. Ironically after yelling at the top of their lungs for years about being RJ flying inhouse Mainline pilots are finally getting their wish but now are in an uproar about the schedules.

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There is a new airport in Tegucigalpa that should not require specific performance if we re enter that market. No more TGU.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coma...tional_Airport


does STT require special performance? B6 flies a321s there from JFK.

it would not surprise me if in 2-3 years most the 752s are parked and we are left with.
752 charter planes
752 TATL planes
753
763

 

I'm glad someone finally said it out loud.

For years I listened to mainline pilots of all companies bragging how they were going to scope out all the RJs and "take it back". I told them I hope you do but I hope you also realize what that flying will be. Not long after that the 717 was christened the Triple Nickel with 5 leg days, 5 day trips, and $5 an hour less than the 88. They all complained about overnighting in podunk places we used to fly props to. Now it sounds like that has spread to all the NB fleets. The accelerating demise of the express carriers is only going to make this worse. Somebody has to do that flying. But it's not a new thing. I distinctly remember buddies on the 9 at NWA telling me about 4 day trips that never left the state of MI.

 

Best thing about CLE is the Taco Bell cantina