Bad trips vs. Good Trips
03-27-2022 | 06:23 AM
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One of your more arrogant posts…which is saying something. To suggest that you know what’s REALLY happening and the thousands of pilots saying something different should be, what… ignored? Corrected? You still have some growing up to do.
03-27-2022 | 06:43 AM
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This is just plain wrong. As a junior CA on the 88 I routinely flew commutable 4 Day trips with a 30 hour layovers and only 14-15 days of block. Those do trips do not exist anymore on ANY fleet.
Put simply the trips available to me at 85% on the 88 were light years better than what I can now hold as a 320B at 30%
Put simply the trips available to me at 85% on the 88 were light years better than what I can now hold as a 320B at 30%
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03-27-2022 | 06:53 AM
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Agreed. However, I was pointing out Trips assertion is just plain wrong. Regards less of the reason.
03-27-2022 | 06:58 AM
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03-27-2022 | 06:58 AM
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First, you'll have to the clarify base. ATL for sure has plenty of commutable trips. Secondly the 320 is a much more capable plane range wise than the 88 so there is impact on the trip mix there. Lastly as far as 30 hr layovers those not only come and go but some pilots hate them which brings us back to my original thesis, confusion of the highest order
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03-27-2022 | 07:08 AM
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Sure, ATL has a more commutable trips. What's your point? I'm talking about the same base from 6 years ago. The trips are much worse. I challenge for you to find (more than a few outliers l)in the bid package trips that contain 6-7 hours of credit on any narrow body. 30,hour layovers or not. It is clear that trips have deteriorated and they have all but removed ALL the credit from most trips.
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03-27-2022 | 07:12 AM
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The problem with record of amounts of overtime is the underlying REAL problem, imo: record amounts of understaffing (or perhaps network overbidding capacity). Understaffing means reduced ability for swaps & drops, less or no control of schedule post award, more coverage awards, reroutes, IA etc. I believe that is the poorly communicated root cause. The folks that want to work more and get paid more are doing it. I don't think those are the ones complaining (as much). That folks that don't want to work overtime are still negatively effective. That would be a better message I think then too much double pay overtime.
03-27-2022 | 07:36 AM
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The problem with record of amounts of overtime is the underlying REAL problem, imo: record amounts of understaffing (or perhaps network overbidding capacity). Understaffing means reduced ability for swaps & drops, less or no control of schedule post award, more coverage awards, reroutes, IA etc. I believe that is the poorly communicated root cause. The folks that want to work more and get paid more are doing it. I don't think those are the ones complaining (as much). That folks that don't want to work overtime are still negatively effective. That would be a better message I think then too much double pay overtime.
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