After airborne departure of the first leg of the rotation, anything changes….flight is removed….flight is added….changed form operate to DH or vice versa…it’s a Reroute.

Highly recommend you read Negotiators' Notepad 24-03: Reroute Rules and Pay Treatments because not only will it tell you what’s a RR or not, it’s will tell/show you how to calculate your RR pay, which I assume will be your next question.

 

Every time ATC says “I have a reroute advise ready to copy” I start counting the money.

 

I did, I get confused at all the exotic RR examples they use. I understand the pay aspect just fine.

Just a sanity check here, but thank you for the info 👍

We were on the return leg when they cancelled and then DH use back.

 

While below 👇 probably doesn’t apply to HK coming back to base, for anyone else following, a change last year clarified even the first leg of a rotation (normally triggering 23K), if changed from operating to dh or vice versa, triggers RR pay.

MOU 24-01:
Operating to Deadheading:
Prior to the airborne departure of the first flight segment of a pilot’s rotation, that rotation may be changed from the pilot operating a single flight segment, to deadheading on that same flight segment. If this occurs, the pilot will be paid as though they have been rerouted on that flight segment.
• If an actual reroute occurs in a duty period prior to the duty period in which this change occurs, the pilot will receive single pay, no credit for the changed flight segment, in addition to any other pay for the rotation.
• If not, the pilot will receive one-half pay, no credit for the changed flight segment, in addition to any other pay for the rotation, and any reroutes that occur in subsequent duty periods will result in single pay, and credit in addition to any other pay for the rotation.

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Deadheading to Operating:
Prior to the airborne departure of the first flight segment of a pilot’s rotation, if the Company desires to change a single flight segment on a rotation from the pilot deadheading to operating that same flight segment, they may do so only as a proffer to the pilot. If the pilot accepts the proffer, they will receive single pay, no credit for the changed flight segment, in addition to any other pay for the rotation. If the pilot declines the proffer, they will remain on the originally scheduled deadhead, unless the Company chooses to remove the pilot from all or a portion of their rotation under Section 4 E. 1. of the PWA.

Also, assuming the pilot accepts the proffer, any later reroutes in the same rotation, whether occurring in a prior, subsequent, or the same duty period, will each generate an additional single pay, no credit for the affected leg(s), in addition to any other pay for the rotation.

 

Wait, you’re saying that documents exist that answer any and all of the questions asked here and spacebook on a daily basis???

 

 

I think reroute is a really good example of how sometimes ALPA just can't win.

Pilots "Make it easier!" "All reroutes should get paid!"

ALPA: "OK! All reroutes get paid! Every changed leg! Plus current reroute rules go on top as a bonus!"

Pilots: "It's too complicated!"

ALPA: "...."

 

This x1000. I mean…..we’re going on 3yrs now with the new reroute rules and pilots STILL can’t figure it out, or have any idea that documents exist explaining it in great detail.

 

There are some fleets here that barely deal with reroutes if ever. So yes, some of those in that fleet may not pay as much attention to those aspects of the PWA that often don't apply to us much.

Besides how hard is it to just answer someones question?

 

Teach a man to fish and all