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Extenda 08-16-2022 08:09 AM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 3478383)
May the rantallions who OOBWS find themselves bescumbered by the leaky pipes underneath Concourse B in Atlanta. I would do the deed myself if not for the many cameras that protect the zounderkite who turn Greenslips into White.

In upgrade at the Hilton so chatting with some of the new hires. A lot of them got NYC but want another base. Is it “frowned upon” to try to drop an entire NYC schedule on the swap board then OOBWS yourself a Seattle month? Staffing permitting in both bases obviously. Is this a thing that guys do when they can’t get the base they want? Just curious what advice I should give them. I’m not a commuter so don’t know the schemes.

hvydvr 08-16-2022 08:14 AM


Originally Posted by Extenda (Post 3478390)
In upgrade at the Hilton so chatting with some of the new hires. A lot of them got NYC but want another base. Is it “frowned upon” to try to drop an entire NYC schedule on the swap board then OOBWS yourself a Seattle month? Staffing permitting in both bases obviously. Is this a thing that guys do when they can’t get the base they want? Just curious what advice I should give them. I’m not a commuter so don’t know the schemes.

I think some guys living in ATL are doing this on the 320 but have no idea how successful a new hire will be dumping their line given how tight coverage is.

Bucking Bar 08-16-2022 08:17 AM


Originally Posted by Extenda (Post 3478390)
In upgrade at the Hilton so chatting with some of the new hires. A lot of them got NYC but want another base. Is it “frowned upon” to try to drop an entire NYC schedule on the swap board then OOBWS yourself a Seattle month? Staffing permitting in both bases obviously. Is this a thing that guys do when they can’t get the base they want? Just curious what advice I should give them. I’m not a commuter so don’t know the schemes.

What a fopdoodle. Don't be a scobberlotcher.

FangsF15 08-16-2022 08:18 AM


Originally Posted by Extenda (Post 3478390)
In upgrade at the Hilton so chatting with some of the new hires. A lot of them got NYC but want another base. Is it “frowned upon” to try to drop an entire NYC schedule on the swap board then OOBWS yourself a Seattle month? Staffing permitting in both bases obviously. Is this a thing that guys do when they can’t get the base they want? Just curious what advice I should give them. I’m not a commuter so don’t know the schemes.

Frowned upon by whom? :D

It’s in the contract. And though I personally have a huge distaste for A’s who jump 20-30% in seniority by doing it as their norm, I wouldn’t hold it against a NH who involuntarily got NYC but lives on the opposite coast doing it.

Having said that, I would also make sure they have a bid on this AE to SEA, regardless of posted vacancies.

ParkerPilot 08-16-2022 08:21 AM


Originally Posted by FangsF15 (Post 3478395)
Frowned upon by whom? :D

It’s in the contract. And though I personally have a huge distaste for A’s who jump 20-30% in seniority by doing it as their norm, I wouldn’t hold it against a NH who involuntarily got NYC but lives on the opposite coast doing it.

Having said that, I would also make sure they have a bid on this AE to SEA, regardless of posted vacancies.

They can try but depending on the fleet it's all but impossible for the noob's to pull off. Maybe a trip here and there???. OOBWS are way down on the list of PCS changes.

FangsF15 08-16-2022 08:23 AM


Originally Posted by hvydvr (Post 3478393)
I think some guys living in ATL are doing this on the 320 but have no idea how successful a new hire will be dumping their line given how tight coverage is.

Ninjas have ways. It’s actually not that hard if you are willing to be next-day flexible.

Bucking Bar 08-16-2022 08:49 AM


Originally Posted by FangsF15 (Post 3478400)
Ninjas have ways. It’s actually not that hard if you are willing to be next-day flexible.

Like calling in sick for the trips one can't drop then immediately calling in well and picking up an OOBWS?

Guess the company is happy with 24-7, any base, short call reserves saving the company paying overtime to pilots who play by the rules.

Meanwhile, CS can not get through coverage because of the OOBWS wanting to see everything on ARCOS (fishing for the f'up) and dumps the trips to Crew Tracking for reroutes. Some OOBWS pick up knowing they can not make pick up time. They'll happily enjoy a meal and maybe catch the next flight if it suits them while hundreds of passengers and their fellow crewmembers wait through a long duty day.

PilotBases 08-16-2022 09:10 AM

3x per week extra SEA-ICN on 339 starting in December.

FangsF15 08-16-2022 10:09 AM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 3478414)
Like calling in sick for the trips one can't drop then immediately calling in well and picking up an OOBWS?

Guess the company is happy with 24-7, any base, short call reserves saving the company paying overtime to pilots who play by the rules.

Meanwhile, CS can not get through coverage because of the OOBWS wanting to see everything on ARCOS (fishing for the f'up) and dumps the trips to Crew Tracking for reroutes. Some OOBWS pick up knowing they can not make pick up time. They'll happily enjoy a meal and maybe catch the next flight if it suits them while hundreds of passengers and their fellow crewmembers wait through a long duty day.

I hear you, Bucking. I do…

No calling in sick. That’s right the f out. Getting it started all has to do with SWP, and relative reserve req vs reserve avail.

Like I said, it chaps me to see A’s doing it. Though PWA legal, I’d like to see the contract change in that department to keep it from happening. It’s abrogating seniority. But that change will likely never happen.

I also won’t begrudge a NH B from avoiding an involuntary 2-leg commute when he/she can, either.

RAH RAH REE 08-16-2022 10:16 AM

Hope you A's didn't like your sept schedule, it looks like they are rerunning all the awards.


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